cont'd

People mostly do like immigration, in moderation, because there are obvious cultural and educational benefits. With the very high population growth we have been having, however, sometimes above 2% per annum, the extra people put pressure on the environment, on infrastructure (because new arrivals have to be accommodated long before they have contributed enough to pay for it), and on urban amenity. Very few people love permanent water restrictions, paying a fortune to live in a cramped unit, or long waiting lists in the hospitals. The government is now taking a larger share of GNP than it did in the 1970s, when tertiary education was free and the aged pension wasn't means tested.

Banging on about the benefits of multiculturalism helps with the spin effort and helps enable people like yourself to silence those who object to the growth with bleats of Ra-a-cist! This is much like right-wing responses to the Occupying Wall Street protestors, where it is pretended that that the protests are all about envy of people who have more money and not because the money can be and is used to buy the government.

David Jennings:

...You are rounding yourself up on this subject Dave. You may present an opinion from the middle class, if that is your standing, but not speak for them. And, by the same token, unless you profess to the mystical abilities of a clairvoyant, you could not possible know the level of happiness of those opposed to MC.

...My assessment of you on this subject is, it is you who is unhappy with “criticism” of MC. Your position is one of danger IMO. You have a right and a responsibility to question any ideology that is foisted upon you without consent. You also have a right and a responsibility as an individual, to identify manifestations of political propaganda, the lie of which has been culturally devastating to many in Australia.

...My opinion stands, that as a White Australian, I object to MC in all its forms. Mainly on the grounds I was offered no choice on the matter. - If I was given the choice through referendum to accept our Aboriginals inclusively, (and willingly accepted that). Why was I given “no choice” on a matter concerning an issue of greater cultural impact and importance? -

You are contradicting yourself Diver Dan. If I can't speak for the middle class then why can you speak for White Australians?

"It is hard to argue against it if it just about encouraging people to appreciate other cultures, without denigrating the dominant culture, tolerating human rights abuses, or trying to suppress non-libellous free speech, as with truth-is-no-defence religious vilification laws."

That is pretty much what I mean by multiculturalism and you are right, that is hard to argue against

David Jennings said

"You are contradicting yourself Diver Dan. If I can't speak for the middle class then why can you speak for White Australians?"

However Diver Dan never claimed to speak for white Australians. What Diver Dan did say was

"My opinion stands, that as a White Australian, I object to MC in all its forms"

But David Jennings did in fact claim to speak on behalf of the middle class. He said

"The middle class makes up the bulk of Australia. WE are happy with moderate multiculturalism and most Australians don't have any major dramas with race."

Clearly it is David that is putting in the spin here.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12865#222111

Suseonline, shame, shame, shame. you of all loony lefties should be against multiculturalism.

Have you looked at the racial/religious profiling of violent crimes against women in Britain & Europe? where they have had larger minority populations of muslim migrants for longer than we have.

why do you want to get more Australian women & girls raped, beaten, assaulted, harrassed inside the home or outside?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oVoLqjaKiw&feature=related have you no conscience or morals at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwA3jErg9Bc&feature=related there is NO moderate islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIHeBJNFS1g never has been, never will be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5t9U9r9Kfs&feature=related why do you support & promote this?

Australia was not a multicultural society before 1975, regardless of where they came from they were expected to assimilate. the land of OZ has been going backwards ever since.

Multiculturalism is the primary reason Aboriginal education has been failing since the 1970's. Between 1945 & 1965 Aboriginal children finishing school were literate, were capable of going on to TAFE college or university.

What is wrong with you people? Why do you hate your own?