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Defending multiculturalism : Comments

By Alice Aslan, published 10/11/2011

It has become very trendy to denounce multiculturalism in Europe. The political leaders of three major European countries have one by one denounced multiculturalism as a failure.

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David,
Ethnocentrism causes no such emotions and is not the province of the insecure and unsuccessful,the exact opposite is true.
Ethnocentrism is empowering, it gives one a direction in life, a support system and access to economic advantages.
Are Jewish people known as insecure underachievers?

Joe,
Explain to me why the term Extreme Xenophobia is used to denote some sort of pathology while Extreme Xenophilia is promoted as completely normal and "sane" behaviour? Pedophobia is just as nasty and disturbing as Pedophilia.

Also, the basic unit of society is the heterosexual family , not the individual,society is a group activity, it's not possible to have a society of individuals.
It's also amusing to me that unconditional support for multiculturalism and Anti Racism is an implicitly White tendency, it's actually now an Ethnocentric strategy in itself which confers access to business and social opportunities within the White middle classes and if you think it's not a closed, racially exclusive network you're fooling yourself.
I use that strategy to get work all the time since I probably know more about "Doctor's Wives Issues" than any Doctor's Wife does.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 23 November 2011 9:34:19 PM
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Thanks Dan,

No, for what it's worth, I don't support differential application of the law or its remedies for any group alone: if something works (without fudging), then apply it universally. Otherwise one range of remedies should be used for the same range of offences, regardless of 'culture'.

Jay,

No, I don't have to explain anything of the sort. Clearly, I don't support either. And in a democratic society, in law, the basic unit is the individual: check it out with a first-year law student. In society, it depends on the context: sometimes the individual, sometimes, the family, sometimes the group in all its many manifestations, sometimes the society as a whole. But in law, it's the rights of each and every individual, you and me, which are protected.

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 23 November 2011 9:59:49 PM
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Jay, please stick to the forbidden zone.
Posted by David Jennings, Thursday, 24 November 2011 8:16:37 AM
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David,
You want me to butt out for your sake?
Of course you only disparage what you perceive, or misinterpret as ethnocentrism among White people of a certain class, that very attitude is an example of ethnocentrism and elitism in itself.
The fact that marginalsied, low status Whites may at times let give vent to a "Racist" outburst in exasperation at the state of their lives and their communities is not an indication of ethnocentric disposition.
On the contrary, the unhappy losers in life, the White inhabitants of housing estates and low status suburbs are the ones who are at the coal face of racial assimilation, get ready for the waves of dumb, poor and violent mixed race kids who are headed your way.

Support for Multiculturalism has become an ethnocentric strategy for the White middle classes, it excludes all the riff raff, that is to say both the low status non Whites and low status Whites via the mind bending series of social constructs and strawmen invented by the "anti Racist" side.
I was thinking today while at work that the fact that Multiculturalism in Australia is a White middle class movement may account for it's success so far.
Multiculturalism under an elitist, "upper class" tends to break down into a fairly odious caste system and under a dictatorship of the proletariat it doesn't exist at all.

Remember the mixed Indigenous/White children of yesteryear were the "Half Caste", one rung up from the bottom, between those on the missions and the Whites in the slums.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 24 November 2011 1:23:26 PM
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Jay,

On your reflections, that " ... the fact that Multiculturalism in Australia is a White middle class movement may account for it's success so far.
"Multiculturalism under an elitist, "upper class" tends to break down into a fairly odious caste system ...."

- that may have been the intention of some Australians forty or fifty years ago, to bring in migrants to do the sh!ttier jobs so that Australians could move higher up the totem pole. But migrants twigged early to it, and usually made sure that their kids didn't follow them into the factories - and that they didn't have to stay there forever themselves: others would follow them.

Certainly, thanks to a migrant class who could do those lower jobs, Anglo-Australians had the first-mover opportunity, for a generation at least, to get up and out of the slums, to have others to climb over, to go to university for free, to gain professional skills and secure public employment, and join the Greens. You may have missed out on most of that, Jay :(

By definition, ethnic succession always favours the groups which are dominant first, especially if they are in the vast majority. That's you and me, Jay: we had those opportunities, at the expense of others'. Those others have built Australia since the War, and provided the foundation for our opportunities, yours and mine. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, Jay: just say 'thank you' :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 24 November 2011 2:24:11 PM
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Joe,
The hand that feeds me is the White, middle class, green voting, politically correct inner city trendies of Fitzroy and Carlton, God bless 'em!
May their Blonde haired blue eyed offspring grow to prosper as well so that I can go and make a pile of cash fixing their squeaky floorboards, cracked plaster and leaky Tuscan style water features.
Ethnocentrism, theirs and mine certainly pays off for me.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 24 November 2011 4:30:59 PM
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