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No god doesn’t mean life is dull, monotonous or pointless : Comments

By Jake Farr-Wharton, published 4/11/2011

A naturalistic interpretation of the universe is both valid and far from depressing.

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one under god,

This one was a bit of a head-scratcher, but I think I figured it out. Something about Jesus sheltering from the wind in a coffee shop, right? A little cryptic... but then drunks never do make much sense.

For the record, I don't drink alcohol. It kills your brain cells, and I'd really hate the thought of ending up like you.
Posted by The Acolyte Rizla, Friday, 11 November 2011 10:50:34 PM
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aj/quote..""I never lose sight of the fact
that applied reasoning based on logical absolutes..is the only reliable method we have for arriving at the truth,""

applied reasoning..goes beyond the known..into the unknown

if so then you need your absolute
certainties..to be absolutly certain

so we know..life comes from life
thus we know life couldnt have happend by chance
somehow life must have began the living...[the bible says god blew life into clay;we know that life energy was a result

energy cant be created nor destroyed
this too is absolute..so think where the life energy goes..when life appears to end...[keeping in mind the law of atophy]

""given what we currently know,""
rationalises that we are able to reaason we might in the future know[confirm]

""and anyone cares who about the truth of their beliefs;""

yes anyone who cares...about the ultimate truth verifying their beliefs

""anyone who wants as fewer false beliefs as possible,
should never lose sight of this.""

yes i agree aj

<<Being blind to anything but this illusory part of reality...>>

""When we talk about reality and anything that is real, the only way we can have any dialogue is if we talk about what’s real to both of us and/or demonstrable.""

lets presume..you replying
revealing a logical deduction..confirms reality

why is yours relivant..and our irrelivant?

""Anything that doesn’t fit into that category""

you deem as being based in fact

""doesn’t deserve to be described as “real”,..in my opinion.""

yes
in your OPINION..[by your hunch]
by your hope..but not by your facts
just your opinion..[as valid as our opinion]

to you..""It’s more just an esoteric experience.""

esoteric;'intended or understood by
only a select group of people..with special knowledges

continues
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 12 November 2011 6:21:47 AM
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continued

to us its a guide to live by
to inform our actions..to kick start our humanity
a measure of how we match our future with our mortal past

a way to forgive those who tress-pass against us..[and face the day by turning the other cheek

we must not adopt creed nor greed
[nor the other spiritual sins..that only have the assurance that in the next life more shall be a given]

""You scoff at my insistence..on evidence,""

maTE..TILL YOU READ THE BOOK..YOU CANT GRASP THE CONCEPTS

""yet what’s my alternative?""

find a common startpoint
area where we can talk as equals
not preach or talk past each other

""To just buy into everything you guys are saying""

makes you feel
""like a mindless drone..
staring blankly at the monitor and drooling?""

this is not why god gave you the life gift

'"By what mechanism am I supposed to be able to determine the truth value of any of your claims?""

first see god in everything
see your not doing it..its all being done for you

think..your heart beats
the best science can give is its natural autonimus reflex

realise science tries to exoplain
realise medicine greek/latin names only describe the sympton

that ohh so clever..word ..natural selection
means science aint doing it

the list gets endless once you realise..science isnt god
[think who first thunk man[clay]..god breathing life into clay

you must have heard the science theorize
the first cell was a clay bubble..[lol]

a cel membrain is much more than a clay bubble
but thats seriously what the science hypotheorises

no one can be thought of as a fool
if they ask logical questions
[or try to give reasond reply

its not about relieon/creed
its about you finding your own voice with god]

just you
just him
[no esoterric trick needed]

his voice is that still inner voice
of love/grace/mercy/life/other

*not..the inner voice
of vengeance/hate fear/death/self etc
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 12 November 2011 6:34:31 AM
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one under god,

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Posted by The Acolyte Rizla, Saturday, 12 November 2011 11:38:19 AM
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the alco-lite
on meds..wrote..

quote

""? L 'why socialization as non?"":

why anti social

""If non nobis t package?""

if d
ikless

""You? ; Contributes Again payante n;?""

""Because no one..that can not be
considered blasph including word?..m
erde,""[removed profanity]

m
erde is ccccc rap

""imports in the conference quoi. Why non?""

i cant be botherd
with your game

""components and sedation worse nobis is to adopt, stop it?""

just dont take your meds then
ok?

""Can I? T If He had planned, which come""

thats up to you..not him

""due in that proves
otherwise REVIEW [paragemisete] in East - parce qu?""

too political
your only confirming my opinions

""In Austrum pain now? , Was with?""

i think the 'u'..is a missstrikle
it was meant to be an 's'?

""A can Because its' l War
to turn the idiot list?..Non-T between Simplicia Senones""

its your list
see your name is right there..on top

no further reply
to off topic trolls considerd

sort it out
yourself

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Posted by one under god, Saturday, 12 November 2011 3:17:32 PM
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Dear AJ Philips,

I am not here to waste your time, nor, I hope, are you here to waste mine. It is not my intention to prove the unprovable, nor to convince those who do not want to be convinced. I was merely responding to your former claim that "None of you know any of this!", insisting that my God is new and denying that He has been known for thousands of years (in the east). What rational basis have you for such claims?

Yes, life without god is possible, and perhaps even need not necessarily be dull monotonous and pointless - by that I mean that we could do away with a creator and maintainer in the traditional sense. But life without God is a logical impossibility, akin to ocean without water - it is life without life. What I say is that life without God is inconceivable - it is a meaningless combination of words.

This article has two flaws: the first is that when referring to "god" the author automatically assumed only the traditional version of the Judeo-Christian concept. The second is that while the article attempts to refute the "dull" and "monotonous" parts (by demonstrating how wonderful the world is), it puts not even a single argument against the pointlessness of life without God. That's a basic error in logic, of making a deduction about something unrelated - he could just as well have claimed "No god doesn’t mean life is dull, monotonous or dangerous" or "dull, monotonous or ugly". Perhaps the author believes that where there is action, fun and sophistication there is also a point: that has no basis, but it may explain why he cannot stand the solemnity of religion.

As mentioned, I have no problem with atheists - my problem is with another new pseudo-religion that tries to delegitimize any religion but theirs. My problem is with Pericles who jumped on your wagon praising you with glee for your contribution toward destroying religion.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 14 November 2011 1:09:56 AM
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