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By Matt Ridley, published 4/11/2011How do you tell the difference between science and pseudoscience using global warming as an example.
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Posted by one under god, Sunday, 27 November 2011 5:18:54 AM
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So evidence that DNA is not always repaired by one of these mechanisms (thus remains mutated for generations) would contradict your theory?
Posted by Stezza, Sunday, 27 November 2011 5:52:41 AM
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im wading through your link dr stezzra
quote..""It lacked however fundamental functions, including transcription, processes for extracellular communication,.. and enzymes for deoxyribonucleotide synthesis. Proteomic history reveals the urancestor is closer to a simple progenote organism..but harbors a rather complex set of modern molecular functions."" but essentially..*didnt live! despite having... ""advanced metabolic capabilities, ..especially rich in nucleotide metabolism enzymes, pathways..for the biosynthesis..of membrane sn1...,2 glycerol ester..and ether lipids, and it had crucial elements of translation,..including a primordial ribosome with protein synthesis capabilities.''' YET....it hasnt got life ''IT LACKED...fundemonmental..fun-ctions'' clever words usage[spin] ""considered to be either"""...lol ""a simple 'progenote' organism with a rudimentary translational apparatus or a more complex 'cenancestor' with almost all essential biological processes"" lol ""ALMOST all""...lol tell me what means ESSENTIAL...? ""that urancestors were always placed at their base and rooted the tree of life in Archaea"" thus the tree has no root? lets keep this in context ""The tree of life..defines the last universal common ancestor (LUCA),"""[as] ""an organism responsible for the emergence of Earth's primary lineages....*However,..the current tree of life is not universal, i.e. not all primary lineages..are represented in the tree. The tree describes the evolution of organisms with ribosome-containing cells..(ribocells)..and does not incorporate viruses or other lineages that lack ribosomes(virocells), >>have biological boundaries that are difficult to define, or are evolutionarily highly mobile"" lol the numbers needed are huge ""recent study of 184 genomes..identified 669 orthologous protein families,..which cover 561..*detailed functional classes that are involved in almost all essential biological processes of extant life,..including translation,..transcription and its regulation,..DNA replication,..recombination,..and repair,* plus...""transport and membrane-associated functions, electron transfer,and metabolism "" in short uncountable odds no science faulsifyability as to how/what... chance random/event's..accumulated into a first..'life' its just all so funny Posted by one under god, Sunday, 27 November 2011 6:12:41 AM
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i noted the word euacestor
so googled up images http://www.google.com/search?q=uracestor&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi SIX results all vague synthesis drawings of lol proto-eonemes? aint it grand to be in at the theor-retical ground floor..of a new lie? *[f] deleted proteomes had many more pictures http://www.google.com/search?btnG=Search&um=1&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&oq=proteomes+&aq=f&aqi=&gs_upl=259034l262122l0l263743l1l1l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&q=proteomes but these are looking a bit like simple dna but heck aint the pictures pretty if only the pictures moved [seeing is believing] but lets go back to your words ""You may add that to my previous statement that identifying fossils of the homo genus..alongside those of the Eoraptor genus..."" heck lets hear your proof ""I could list falsifiables all day."" well lets start tomorrow [im down to one post..for the rest of the day] .ps.. . ..i love charles darwin ""If it could be demonstrated.."" who will pay..to refute the theory...lol the peers..KNOW its their reason de'tre..[reason for being] ""that any complex organ existed,"' not any complex organism? could he be refering to species modifications [like fan tails..or long legs?..short beaks/long beaks?] ""which could not possibly..have been formed by numerous, successive,...slight modifications,""" all sussesfull and all adding tyo survival the odds become huge then and only then if refuted...only then will ""my theory"" of species evolving..[and im fine with species evolving] just not NEW*..genus emerging only then...'my theory..""would absolutely break down" Charles Darwin. recall him knowing his genus from his species tell me why..did he write 'EVOLUTION ...of SPECIES* not evolution..of genus his species evolution is completly valid but our sumation..of species info..into evolution of genus.. is approaching a colluded fraud...with no faulsifyables its a con darwin was a great man..[i found him by study of pigeons] via levi and hollanders..the pigeon encyclopedia corrosponded with hollander got into much other stuff with mozaic grafting and celular modifiation/by synthesis i do not make his words lightly yes you can put up faulsifyables... that if refuted..*refute your theory im fine with that please present them Posted by one under god, Sunday, 27 November 2011 6:39:12 AM
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Thats alot of words to avoid one small question. I'll repeat,
You stated: "of course i have my list of faulsifyables like the repair mechanisnms of dna" And I questioned: "So evidence that DNA is not always repaired by one of these mechanisms (thus remains mutated for generations) would contradict your theory?" Posted by Stezza, Sunday, 27 November 2011 6:45:57 AM
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POST LIMITS DEAR BOY..!
back to your last question *noting..no genus evoltion out*..of genus..was presented..! but..i note..your clever.... [planned use..of an outlyer?] to negate..the normal formalty.. of automatic..dna repar mechanisms ""So evidence..that DNA is not always..lol...repaired by one..of these mechanisms.."" one.. cant exclude* or refute..the other two one..dont confirm..all.. or indeed indicate its..applicable to all so no.. it will cleverly be..some complex annomility..[outliner].. that destracts..from the sure facts.. THAT..dna gets repaired..* heck look at the word..RE-paird dna pairs..are gods way of making sure..change of genus..can never happen but.at species level..sure a mutation that..*isnt fatal can be expressed..if domminant..at species level [like a fan tail..or frill in a pigeon.. or multiple eyes/legs etc on a fruitfly] or paired..*if ressesive ""(thus remains mutated..for generations)"" SURE..within its genus bounds AT SPECIES level ie..only within the species of the given genus... [unless we get into inserting mutations..manually...like gmo] [ie corn..that makes the 3rd generation sterile] or inserts salmon genes..into strawberries] ""would..[that]..contradict your theory?""' not in the least... i know all dogs..are genus cannus all breeds of dogs..are species..*within canus genus.. so any mutation..from any dog [or pigeon..or fruitfly/human..any life].. will transcribe into any other species....[*in the same genus!] as long as breeding is factilitated..into fertile progeny that again breed..*WITHIN their genus bounds gmo dont count so present..it..by all means lets keep an open mind..lets focused on facts but if,, (its not a change of genus] its refuting..the flawed evolution..of genus thesis..! oh well thats it for me for the day 4 limit posting..makes refuting destractions difficult BUT not impossable keep it comming will reply/refute as fast as i can post *please present faulsifyables* that state definitivly...what it faulsifies and what if refuted...would faulsify the thesis..theor-rised.. refuting..or proving one cant refute..or validate..them all be specfic very specfic we will..get at how..god done it *in time [his time..or ours?] lets get it together now? i pick..a picture http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.abrf.org/ABRFNews/1996/December1996/wilkinsfig1.GIF&imgrefurl=http://www.abrf.org/ABRFNews/1996/December1996/Proteome.html&usg=__9H1lhVK5mcnfz4kogzl4mH3svkw=&h=435&w=681&sz=9&hl=en&start=2&sig2=jcT2_V0Ak1k5cnv9JPrGqw&zoom=1&tbnid=NJMk29iMWEKRhM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=139&ei=KkvRTsqLCsW4iQeC4aXcBg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dproteomes%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1 to quote..""we still do not understand..how the simplest living organisms actually work."" at least honesty.. Posted by one under god, Sunday, 27 November 2011 8:59:33 AM
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like the repair mechanisnms of dna
http://www.google.com/search?q=dna+repair+mechanism
the thesis to aj phillips antithesis..thesis if you will
recall his words
""Another “falsifiable” is the complete lack of any mechanism preventing genera splitting off into several different genera;""
ignoring his ignorant phrasing
the google search clearly reveals at least 3 mechanisms of dna re-pair
of copurse another faulsifyable
would be your presenting a validated change of genus
there are some other
that come to mind
but lets keep it simple
[as my reply to aj seems to have sent him away]
and avoiding debate..*dont mean its not time we had one
based on the facts of course...
[thats why i put up the world freeman society link]
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?t=3225