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Palestine: Theatre Of The Absurd opens at the United Nations : Comments
By David Singer, published 29/9/2011Mahmoud Abbas claims to recognition of a Palestinian state by the UN are absurdity piled on absurdity.
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Posted by david singer, Sunday, 9 October 2011 9:59:52 AM
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David Singer,
Did you know that Deborah Lipstadt, arguably the world’s foremost authority on Holocaust denial, refuses to debate Holocaust deniers? To the incredulity of TV producers she has turned down numerous invitations to debate Holocaust deniers on national TV. In chapter one of her landmark book, Denying the Holocaust: The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory*, Ms Lipstadt explains why. May I suggest you read her explanation and contemplate it in connection with your own activities on this forum? * http://www.amazon.com/Denying-Holocaust-Growing-Assault-Memory/dp/0452272742/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1318121080&sr=1-1 Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 9 October 2011 11:02:14 AM
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#To stevenlmeyer
Re your comment on Deborah Lipstadt: "May I suggest you read her explanation and contemplate it in connection with your own activities on this forum?" You are really no better than the utter nutter. Why don't you just state the explanation Deborah Lipstadt gives - why employ innuendo and not just simply state what she says - and then tell us why it has relevance to my activities on this forum that seem to be of such concern to you? Then we can discuss it. Posted by david singer, Sunday, 9 October 2011 12:09:50 PM
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David Singer wrote:
>>Why don't you just state the explanation Deborah Lipstadt gives…>> I provided you with a link. Just use Amazon’s “look inside” facility. Lipstadt’s explanation is right at the start of chapter one as stated. In any case, I would have expected you to be familiar with Lipstatdt’s book and work. In fact I’m astounded that you aren’t. >>Then we can discuss it [your activities on this forum].>> As I’ve explained David, I am prepared to discuss these issues with you PRIVATELY. You have a means of contacting me. The offer still stands. If you choose to reject the offer we are destined not to have the discussion. Another book you may wish to read is: The Wicked Son: Anti-Semitism, Self-hatred, and the Jews (Jewish Encounters) by David Mamet. See: http://www.amazon.com/Wicked-Son-Anti-Semitism-Self-hatred-Encounters/dp/0805211578/ref=sr_1_10?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1318128685&sr=1-10 And, no, I cannot summarise a closely argued book for you in 350 words or less. Nor would I do so on this forum even if I could. So you’ll just have to get the book yourself if you’re interested. Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 9 October 2011 12:54:50 PM
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To stevenlmeyer
Generalisation, generalisation,generalisation .... If you think Deborah Lipstadt has a reason that convinces you to make the comment you did - then state that reason or conclusion. Better still quote what she says that impresses you. You obviously know where it is in Chapter 1. Just copy and paste the actual comment. Is that so hard to do Posted by david singer, Sunday, 9 October 2011 2:14:40 PM
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David Singer
The relevant passages are right at the start of chapter one. I cannot cut and paste as you suggest. Maybe someone more computer literate than me could figure out a way of cutting and pasting these passages from an embedded PDF but I couldn't. I also suspect that Lipstadt's explanation would run to > 350 words. You now know how to find the relevant passages. If you, or anyone else, wants to read Lipstadt's explanation as to why she never debates Holocaust deniers you are free to do so. BTW I never respond to ad hominem attacks. I feel that once someone resorts to such tactics the weakness of their case is self-evident. If you want to characterise me as an "utter nutter" feel free. My offer of a private discussion still stands. Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 9 October 2011 2:34:21 PM
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I am convinced you are an utter nutter.
How many times do I have to repeat that Jews have the legal right to live in the West Bank pursuant to article 6 of the Mandate for Palestine and article 80 of the United Nations Charter.
Are you capable of digesting this one sentence?
You further state to Danielle:
"You might think in terms of Jewish and Arab, which is disgracefully discriminatory. I think in terms of Israeli and Palestinian."
You are apparently the victim of Arab propaganda that has successfully brainwashed so many into believing this is not a conflict between Jews and Arabs.
Think again.
The territorial disposition of the conquered Ottoman Empire after World War 1 resulted in 99.999% going to the Arabs and 0.001% going to the Jews to reconstitute the Jewish National Home. This has never been - and probably never will be - accepted by the Arabs if the history of the last 91 years is any guide.
The history of Palestine did not begin in 1948. Just go back to 1920 and see what happened from then on - if you think it is unrealistic to go back to the Bible and the Roman conquest of Eretz Yisrael.
You are perfectly entitled to swallow whatever you like hook line and sinker.
Just don't propagate misinformation and make claims that you never substantiate