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U.S. should react strongly to Pakistan’s involvement in attack on U.S. embassy : Comments

By Lisa Curtis, published 28/9/2011

Unless Pakistan agrees to take recourse against those ISI officials involved in the September 13 attack and to work more closely with the US in confronting the Haqqani network, the US will have to recalibrate its policy toward Pakistan.

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First things first, Arjay.

>>Start at freefall collapses.I'll explain the anomalies if you both dare confront the truth.<<

You explain how the explosives got there, then we can discuss "explosions".

'Cos if there was no way they could have been placed, in the quantities required, with the necessary precision, without detection at the time and without any of the (many? how many?) people involved subsequently spilling even the tiniest bean, then you can waffle on about "freefall" until you are blue in the face, it won't change the reality.

None of the buildings was blown up. Live with it.
Posted by Pericles, Saturday, 1 October 2011 9:36:02 AM
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Repeating lies often Pericles will not make them become the truth.You and Diverdan have failed to even address one of my 15 points.

Even a house of cards put in a vacuum Pericles will not collapse at near freefall speeds since even a structure held together just by gravity,presents some resistance when falling.These buildings had massive steel structures holding them together.Did God suspend the laws of physics on that day?

The only man made force that can cause this effect is controlled demolition.This has been attested to by over 1600 architects and engineers + 400 professors.Now these are only a few who have the courage to speak up.

It is about time many more faced the truth. http://www.ae911truth.org/
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 1 October 2011 10:00:25 AM
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*Makes for a pointless, one-sided discussion.
A bit like trying to teach your goldfish to talk.*

ROFL Pericles, I'll have to keep that one for my quotable quotes list!

Arjay, if you bothered to check, you'd find that those towers
were flawed in design from the start and hardly strong. Trusses
rather then beams were carrying the concrete floors and it does
not take that much heat for trusses to bend. Once they bend the
whole building is unstable.

In fact if you've ever seen what a good wind can do to trusses,
when loadings are applied in ways which they wern't intended,
you'd soon understand why the buildings collapsed.

Note how the new designs now have a concrete core and no more
trusses. People have learnt from their mistakes.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 1 October 2011 10:50:59 AM
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The Towers were not flawed in design nor was the 47 storey WTC 7.The engineers designed them to take multiple impacts of the larger 707 the biggest passenger plane of that time.

Telling lies Yabby ,won't make the truth go away.Neither NIST or the 911 Commission said that the tower's design was flawed.NIST said their was "sulphidation and evidence of inter-granular melting" They did not investigate the melting.They stopped their investigation at the moment of collapse.The pile driver ie the building above the impact zone,not only fell at 23 deg,it pulverised itself to dust before it could crush the lower flaws.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 2 October 2011 6:29:28 AM
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*The engineers designed them to take multiple impacts of the larger 707 the biggest passenger plane of that time.*

Arjay, those building were designed in the 60s and the design was
described as "innovative" at the time. There were no PCs to
do the sorts of simulations of planes flying into buildings, more
like some rough guesses. Hardly scientific. Besides, the
insulation around the columns had been shown to be flawed in the
93 WTC bombing. Only a small part of it had been replaced thus far.

Of course nobody would have written in an official report that the
design was flawed. Imagine the legal implications! In a country
where everyone sues the pants off everbody.

One mob thought that the bolts holding the trusses had sheared off,
quite possible, another mob thought that the trusses had bent in
the heat, also quite possible. Fact is that they were flimsy trusses
and there was no concrete at all, holding up the building.

Even engineered sheds, built with similar trusses, will blow away
in freak wind storms, when loads are put on them in ways that were
not calculated in the first place. Those building weighed
1 million tonnes, which equates to huuuuuge pressure.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:06:43 PM
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Arjay says man never went to the moon too.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 2 October 2011 12:31:47 PM
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