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All bi myself : Comments

By Rose Cooper, published 22/8/2011

Does anyone who is not bisexual understand what bisexuality is?

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...More drivel from another depraved “monk of bonk”. Where is the self respect?

...Formersnag: Thanks for the links!
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:15:49 PM
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Cry me a river man.

Everybody knows what bisexuality is. Most people are bisexual to some degree.

Sounds to me like you're not pleading for people to accept who you are, you're pleading 'look at me look at me', and 'I'm special'. People looking to be accepted don't scream from the rooftops, they just don't make a big deal about their sexual preferences like 99% of the population. Admit it, you like people to notice you and you really are like the Only Gay in the Village character looking for attention.

If other people want to keep their 5/10/20% bisexuality in the closet or for special spontaneous expereinces in their lives who are YOU to tell them they should apply YOUR labels for YOU to feel better about yourself.

Get over yourself.

It might surprise and upset you to know nobody really cares what you want to define yourself as.

PS: That true test of lesbianism idea is because girls are happy to toungue kiss each other to tease or turn on males or just for the fun of it, but not as many will eat a full on fur burger. Guys on the other hand are so conditioned to never show any gayness that you wont see such behaviour, and I think if a guy is gay enough to try gay sex, against all that social taboo, it's likely that it's the taboo that's the main thing that's been holding him back ie; He's raving homo conditioned by society against his true colours. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Most people I reckon range around the 90/10 percentage mix, and if they identify as straight what's the problem. If you drink coke 95% of the time but have drunk a few Pepsis in your life and you say you're a coke drinker I reckon that's eminently reasonable.

Yeah that coke/pepsi analogy is about as important as the whole topic really is! Sorry if that doesn't make you feel unique or special enough, and lacks the necessary drama.

Those bi-cola people are so marginalised, oh the humanity!
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 22 August 2011 2:23:38 PM
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Formersnag,
Are you really suggesting that no gay or bisexual people existed until 1955 when a book was written deliberately in order to turn Western society into moral degenerates?

I suspect that both groups were around well before 1955 and will be around for a long time yet to come.
Posted by wobbles, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 1:15:03 AM
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Rose, I'm perhaps a little less inclined than Monsieur Houllebecq to believe in the infalliability of other people... I often think that for well-educated people who have a high level of self-awareness and self-assuredness it becomes easy to lose a sense of value over the process of reaching that state. However it is something that everyone needs to go through if they are to make the best of their lives, and I applaud you for putting your thoughts into writing - as to do so makes another little contribution to demystifying the human animal.

It's quite interesting to have it pointed out that it is still difficult for bisexual people to find acceptance because it probably wouldn’t occur to me or to most of the people I know that this problem existed. I suppose my take on sexuality as an identity marker is that this whole phenomenon has come about as a result of people wanting to stand up for themselves in the face of opposition. Now that that opposition's waning somewhat it seems like it becomes less and less necessary to stand up or differentiate oneself. Upshot is that sexuality is starting to lose its legitimacy as a basis for identity. People understand each other in much more complex ways these days.

And yet these cultures keep getting perpetuated. Perhaps this is partly because G,L,B, and T people tend to hang around each other and form unified social circles which have no need to look outside of themselves much – and so those on the outside continue to recognise their distinctness. But you’re right to point out that there is still opposition and ignorance in some quarters. It’s not true that everyone knows what bisexuality is. You won't find much traction in the mainstream media for example, because it’s still dominated by people in a state of anxiety over anything that's different from them. But then the only reason it's mainstream is because a lot of people follow it. But you don't have to. And so the question is, what's wrong with turning your back on those who do?
Posted by Sam Jandwich, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:43:40 PM
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[cont]

I think it's important to learn to let go of the people who aren't capable of coming with you. Education does go some way to changing some people’s minds. But I just think there are some people who'll never change, for reasons that are their own, and instead of butting your head against the wall trying to get them to accept you, I think it would be more useful for you to throw up your hands and realise that they are the ones with the problem – and be prepared to fight them when they get in your way. That’s what politics is all about!
Posted by Sam Jandwich, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 12:44:31 PM
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http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12497#216092

wobbles, don't be ridiculous, of course there were "some" GLBT people around before 1955, but the % of population was smaller then, DE generacy has been growing exponentially ever since, precisely because closet communists wanted to sabotage our society/culture.
Posted by Formersnag, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 1:17:10 PM
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