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Is the USA a failed State? : Comments

By Sam Vaknin, published 11/8/2011

Is America falling behind and/or failing as a nation?

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Is the US a failed state?

No, just a state going through a transition, although this transition may take a generation or more to play out.

The US has lost a lot of industry that has gone offshore, but wages in the US are dropping, and if other things are done, industry may return back to the US in the future, and the US will regain its prosperity.

Currently US politics and US foreign policies are woeful, or perhaps it always has been that way, except people didn’t notice that much.

Domestically and socially there are major problems in the US.

- Too high an immigration rate.
- A growing divide between the rich and poor.
- Exploitation of the poor by the rich.
- Major problems with education systems and skills base.
- Loss of national identity and distrust of government.
- Health problems.
- Decimation of families due to feminism.

In fact, the US has most of the problems Australia also has, except in Australia such problems are hidden by coal and iron ore exports.
Posted by vanna, Thursday, 11 August 2011 8:54:20 AM
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is usa a failed state...lol get serious mate
the fed can print all the fiat paper
mone-tory easing..cyber money
govt collusion will issue a bond for

we got a failed govt process
not YET a failed state

the govt sold the fed reserve to the bankers
for 44 point 4..billion...[FOR THAT SAME SUM]

it can buy back the fed reseve with 12 plate size coins
[under right of seignorage..ie face value]

the same right..that make paper a unit of exchange
declared by fiat [royal decree]..7 cents of paper
to be equal the true worth of a silver dollar

all usa needs do
is seize back fort knox from the banks
via auditing the 'gold' quality and quantity in it

when the fort knox gold
reveals the 12 bankers sold the gold
[they bought for 33$ an ounce...THEN on sold for 200$]


systematic grand theft
[and treason]..colluded crime

THEN they seize back the mint
and return to the coin-age

reset the coin face value
BACK to true value...[ie its weight
pounds/dollars..ARE UNITS OF WEIGHT

[ie a dollars
worth of weight..in pure silver]

[inflation has deflated the real value of coin]
ading two nought's..over face value
returns its true values
back to the poor

who then spend their coins[consume]..
at true values

and the coin-age returns

with the fed holding the 12 HUGE coins
with a total value of the debt...and most govt 'bond's'

[TRUE GOVT DEBT..owed the fed]
is 44.4 billion

12 coins
can set usa free

but will the bankers
let their collusive theft be revealed?

well who knows

AUDIT THE FED
and fort knox

the 'gold reportedly..is only gold plate
and other metals...

*who stole the gold
silent govt..let the feds/bankers take it all

no need to make the rich pay

take back the power of coin
and the rest just goes away

gold/silver coin..are the only lawfull tender
[read the constitution..or resign]
Posted by one under god, Thursday, 11 August 2011 9:42:11 AM
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All the US really has to do is get out from under the weight of green oppression on enterprise, & it would fly again.

Ship the government of China in, to get rid of the restrictions, & the US would leave China for dead.

It is a sad fact that the movement that did so much to clean up, & improve the west has had a rush of blood to the head. Instead of being happy with what they have done, they have now gone mad, they or those who took over their movement. Too far is no longer enough for the greenies, & the west is now suffering from it.

The US, Oz & the rest of the west had better get going, & soon. We are now slipping behind the new economies in our education standards, with far too much feather bedding in institutions. This is particularly the case in the solid practical subjects.

We now have a very large percentage of people in our higher education institutions, running around exchanging bits of fairy floss. If this continues it won't be just one lost generation, it will be a long slide into white trash status for all of us.
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:07:29 AM
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Sam Vaknin,

Could you please give us your definition of ‘The State’?

It would help us distinguish a rogue State from a non rogue one.
Posted by skeptic, Thursday, 11 August 2011 11:04:56 AM
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hasbeen "We now have a very large percentage of people in our higher education institutions, running around exchanging bits of fairy floss. If this continues it won't be just one lost generation, it will be a long slide into white trash status for all of us."

spot on

the growth of USA was propelled on the values of Libertarian Capitalism

which have been flushed by the incideous influence and warped policies of leftard liberals (US definition) - and here known as the Australian Labor party, supported by the assorted Watermelons of the environazi movement and the turncoat independents like Windsor

But I am sure the people of USA have the will to reverse the trend

Just as real Australians will reverse the trend at the Next General Election
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 11 August 2011 2:05:51 PM
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A look at things from a different perpective. Same result.

The writer went back to the aberrations of the beginning of US hegemony commencing with Mexico, a forgotten chapter to all but the Mexicans.
Since then, they haven't looked back being able to cut a swath through almost every country in the world, masquerading as they do in pursuit of freedom, democracy, anti-communism, (these days, to keep up the 'isms', anti-terrorism, most of their own making) with each successive president, collectively the very worst kind of people, even Kennedy (ask the people in Laos and Cambodia), using their (the president's) private army, the CIA, as they go about their charter of creating instability throughout the world by planting false information, covertly feeding money to dictators, depressing global prices of agricultural products in order to damage uncooperative third world countries, starting wars, over 200 to date, attempting to assassinate foreign leaders and *”sponsoring guerrilla wars of insurgencies in places as diverse as the Ukraine, Poland, Albania, Hungary, Indonesia, China, Tibet, Oman, Malaysia, Iraq, the Dominican Republic. Venezuela, North Korea, Bolivia, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand, Haiti, Guatemala, Cuba, Greece, Turkey, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Angola and Nicaragua to name a few on the public record.”

* See "Nemesis", by Chalmers Johnson an American writer for the full story, who sadly died November 2010, Perhaps the most prescient critic of American empire and its pretensions and brilliant author of “Blowback” and “The Sorrows of Empire”.

At the moment we see an empire, corrupt, hated, a compliant servant to an even more hated foreign state, Israel, losing its internal democracy and growing militarily larger by the day, 780 foreign bases at the last count, morally and certainly financially bankrupt, with a current charlatan as a leader, a previous leader who was allowed to erode The Constitution, once the inviolable document on which the United States was built.
A country that has degenerated into a government of deceitful liars, torturers, false flag perpetrators, assassins, all supported by a dishonest, foreign-controlled media. A country that no longer understands their own Constitution.

Failed state? How could one think that?
Posted by rexw, Thursday, 11 August 2011 2:55:18 PM
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