http://www.northernstar.com.au/story/2011/07/30/prince-william-admonished-murdoch-execs/
This link is both of interest because it reported the words of a Royal victim.
Spoken to those who offended against him.
It includes a gee! have we not said sorry yet!
From Rupert's son.
But of most interest to me, is the opinions of ordinary Australians that comes with the link.
Now thanks SM, some balance here from you.
rpg however? it clearly is your exercise comes from jumping to conclusions, and puffing your chest out.
I have over 4.000 posts in OLO, not my first forum, been here from about 2005.
Your constant references to left, informs me you have no grounds to comment on politics.
Your requests for me or anyone to say sorry have me ROTFL!
My minds eye now has drawn a picture of you, some what unfaltering, no need to share it with you, it greatly amuses me however.
I think you can be saved.
Just follow these instructions, buy a mirror.
For a few minutes before posting look in to it.
Say *I am not a God*
Lefty's are Citizens of Australia* every one is more left than me*
Hope it helps.
Too if you can remember opinions are free free speech is a right, and now law or rule ever existed that says even remotely you are always right the world wrong.

belly, I expected abuse after the fabrication and lack of ethics, and you're true to form. (160 words of abuse, self centered preening and bragging, I would suggest you might have a look in the mirror yourself.)

Just what I deserve trying to converse with a leftie, should have known better, now I do.

You say free speech is a right, but want Murdoch closed down .. amazing, anyway, I'll not bother again with abusive people.

Shadow Minister, I believe Belly has taken your post as encouragement to be abusive .. pity about that.

So much for free speech, and rogue elements.

Belly, RPG, et al,

Having read both the Australian, and the SMH pretty much every day, I see articles attacking both sides in both papers. However, the main difference (and this is my own observation) is that while the SMH tends to be reserved in its criticism, the Australian is not.

For someone that is in trouble and bearing the brunt of the criticism, as the labor party is at present, the no punches pulled style of the Murdock press would seem to be bias.

News corp does not own 70% of Australian papers, it simply owns the most popular ones. It must be doing something right.

In debate, no matter what the subject, two sides exist.
Those two may both be only partly right.
Amicus rpg [who by the way insults me in every post] have only one side to their debate.
And a miss placed certainty that they only are right.
This thread infers privacy is the only issue, and not here in Australia.
I strongly think phone taping, is only a symptom of the Problem.
And I think, as of yet,we have little or no evidence that has taken place in Australia.
Amicus, if you wish me to consider you a worth while opponent to discus politics with,you wait in vain.
Do me this favor, look at Liberal/Labor leadership, tell me when we last had such failures on both sides.
It plainly is not good enough! to ignore the true nature of Tony Abbott.
Both you and poor old rpg, who has been here years less than me.
MUST first look at your posts, all of them.
To condemn me for rudeness, without noticing the silliness of the idiotic use of the word lefty is.
Well gentlemen/Lady's evidence of lack of ability to understand this/maybe any subject.
Shadow Minister you are aware I have said your team is home in the next election.
But if I was a conservative, and I am not, my demands would be the same as for my team.
They are.
dump current leader and some on front bench.
Put policy's out now, fight only ones we dislike for our country's sake.
Put the greens last both sides and consider removing the senate.
My Dysfunctional fellow posters may remember I find the left as bad as I find them, the dog whistling right/tea party.

I've just had my attention drawn to this thread. It appears that my earlier intervention had little effect except to ensure that the author didn't suffer anymore ad homs. The rest of you seem to be, generally speaking, throwing them about rather freely.

So, from this point on, can I ask that you return to dealing with each other civilly? I'll be deleting if you don't.

Graham (Moderator)