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The invasion of Australia – official, at last : Comments

By John Pilger, published 4/7/2011

The City of Sydney has officially decided that the 'European arrival' in Australia was in fact an 'invasion'.

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Jay,

I think the horse has well and truly bolted against your last comment, and that's fine with me. I'm happy to see more Asians and Africans - from all corners of Asia and Africa - and I don't even mind people coming here from anywhere else in the world either.

I don't think that Anglo-Australians (or more broadly, white Australians) will ever become a minority in Australia. America is a different prospect, since big chunks of it have been Hispanic since the seventeenth century, and the whites (or their ancestors) there made the choice of bringing millions of Africans to the country. Of course, a big proportion of the white population in America is already Italian, Greek, Arab, Jewish, Eastern European, and so on, anyway, so Anglo-Americans, or Anglo-Celtic-Americans (ACAs), are probably already in a minority.

But becoming a minority is not the same as genocide - in fact, a a slowly shrinking population may not be the same as genocide: the numbers of ACAs is probably stable or declining, and if they don't want to have enough kids to keep up their population, then that can hardly be equated with genocide.

In the medium- to long-run, inter-marriage will blur all of those boundaries in any case, which I think will be wonderful: what Darwin would call 'hybrid vigour' - children of inter-marriage tend to be more beautiful, haven't you noticed ?

Or - do you call that genocide too, Jay ?

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Thursday, 7 July 2011 5:01:22 PM
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Hi Joe,

Always glad to read your posts and your voice of reason.

One of the most fascinating aspects of our species is the extraordinary physical and cultural diversity of its members.
Yet this diversity is often a source of conflict and inequality
because human relationships are all too often shaped by the
differences rather than the similarities between groups. More's the
pity.

As a biological concept, the word "race," is almost meaningless. There is certainly no such thing as a "pure" race. Different populations have been interbreding for thousands of years, and a continuum of human types has resulted.

Various societies slice up this continuum in different ways, so that the same person might belong to one "race" in one society, but another "race," in a second society.

In Brazil, for example, the continuum from "black" to "white" is loosely divided into several socially recognized categories, such as "branco, cabra, moreno, mulato, and escuro." In South Africa, on the other hand, the same contimuum is divided by law into three rigid racial categories: white, coloured, and black. In the US, only two basic categories on this continuum are recognized - black and white - even though most "black" Americans actually have white ancestry. And although all Americans who are not black are never referred to as "nonblacks" all Americans who are not white are collectively referred to as "nonwhites."

In short, categories of race are a creation of the observer, not of nature.
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 7 July 2011 7:12:48 PM
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Who brought up the subject of White Genocide?
Not me.
Nevertheless, I doesn't seem to matter how many times I post the same thing nobody understands it.
Anti Racism is a code word for Anti White.
All I get is the same cadre of White people waffling on about how White Genocide is not real because there's no such thing as race, or there are no "pure" White people..or no White people at all.
I'll accept an Indigenous person telling me I'm wrong or that they disagree with me,or that they see me as an invader or whatever... those are valid points of view.
Being White and being opposed to the existence of your own people and a future for White children is surely a sign of, at the minimum some perverse form of mental ,conditioning.
I've never heard a Black person say "Black people are a mongrel race and it's inevitable that we'll be bred out of existence and what's more that's going to be good for society".
The last conversation I had with an African was VERY interesting, he said that in his opinion White Australians do have a "culture", we're just brainwashed into thinking we don't.

So I'm actually more at ease around racially aware non White people than Genocidal Anti White psychos who want to stop White children from even being born.
I've never had a cross word with a non White over some faux pas in conversation, but just today I mortally "offended" a White PC fool by calling Adam Bandt an "inner city Hipster"....really, Lefties have thin skin and glass Jaws.
Joe and Lexi, be offended by what's been done to you to make you hate your own people, I could sit you down with one of my comrades and we could de program you in about an hour, that's all it takes to break the PC mindset
As I said, the "invasion" idea needs to be explored , there is more to it than Pilger's Marxist bleating and for REAL Whites and REAL Aborigines there might be something more to talk about
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 7 July 2011 10:02:08 PM
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Hi Jay,
My comment was directed at SPQR so my mistake. I was commenting on SPQR's assertion that Modern Aboriginal people destroyed the 'theoretical' other Indigenous inhabitants as posited by Bradshaw's inference.
:)
Posted by 2deadly, Thursday, 7 July 2011 10:48:14 PM
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That's OK 2 deadly.
I think the point here is that among Whites there is a perception that these academics paid to work on native title claims have a very narrow field of view which is colouring the way we see Aboriginal history.
The miners want to dig stuff up, they just need somone to throw some money at so that people like Lexi and Joe will feel all warm inside and won't ask too many questions about what they're doing, or won't make too much fuss if there's a cyanide spill or a release of radioactive water.

I don't claim to know a lot about the history of your people but I know a lot about the history of my people.
My people build up societies then disappear, your people seem to have sustained themselves over a very long timeline.
Why do I think the Bradshaws were White?
Because their culture is gone, only a few traces remain.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 8 July 2011 6:54:25 AM
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Dear Jay,

Again with the sweeping generalisations. "People like Lexi and Joe...
need to feel warm inside." Firstly you know nothing about "people like Lexi and Joe." Secondly this isn't about us and we have no "need to feel warm inside." You should ask Joe about his background - you might be surprised to know who Joe actually is. The same goes for me
and the work that I'm involved in. Re-read our posts and perhaps if you can just get past your own biases - you may begin to comprehend what is being said. Although I won't hold my breath. You compound your ignorance with the same mantra that you keep quoting in each of your posts. It's getting a bit tedious and makes any kind of discussion with you next to impossible. Like talking to a brick wall.
Pointless.
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 8 July 2011 9:21:01 AM
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