Actually Patricia by writing tis one sided slant on DV and child abuse I'd put you down as the primary aggressor. You continue to push a very one sided perspective of DV and child abuse yet claim victim status when dad's who've seen how that agenda plays out when it has sway dare to disagree.

If I recall correctly you claim to work with a lot of people involved in family law. Do you get as bothered when your female clients (or whatever you call them) refer to their ex's in unflattering terms?

Would you considering it bullying if one of the male posters had been caught out in a blatent misrepresention of the data (or had suggested that no men assault their partners or similar), the other men were pointedly ignoring it, and one of the female posters continued to highlight it?

R0bert

Happy – You are quite correct that `dear’, grubs’ etc were used in a derogatory, demeaning, and dehumanising way designed to give offence, and your request for an apology is now being met with obfuscations and prevarications. Ammonite is also quite correct that I should have refrained from responding in like fashion regarding FR Groups and which were not directed at an individual, and for that I sincerely apologise and I take on board her quite correct reproval of “...but please don't descend to the depths that Antiseptic and others inhabit”.. It certainly appears that when some contributors know and feel that they have lost the argument and lack the knowledge and intelligence to maintain their side of the debate, that they have recourse to attempt such dehumanising responses.
Their responses are always in the paranoid Conspiracy Theories about Feminism, or the `Blame Game’ (but Mum, she hit me first and harder). It really is so very pathetic that grown (not mature) men can behave in these ways.
We must just continue to present the soundly based evidence and arguments to support our contentions in the hope that impartial and objective readers will better understand the issues. I do not intend either to respond to the jibes and misconstruances that my motivations are driven out of concern for the children involved, as the vast majority of my past postings provide clear evidence to support my position.
Domestic violence increases by 35% in a year in the UK,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2014636/Domestic-abuse-cases-increase-35-year.html

RObert,
now you're just boring.

I'm still rolling on the floor laughing about those statistics on Male domestic violence provided by `Robert' i.e. hitting, shoving, and throwing.
'Hitting' - "She slapped me acxross the cheek," Your Honour, "and her nails dug in leaving marks".
`Shoving' - "I was just about to KIng-Hit her" Your Honour, "but she pushed me away and my fist struck the door".
`Throwing' - "I'd been playing by myself in my Shed for five hours watching child porno films", Your Honour, "so she threw my dinner against the wall and the dog got it.".
So if I don't get my kids I'll jump off Sydney Harbour Bridge and kill myself.
ROFLMAO.......
ONE WOMAN A WEEK IS KILLED IN AUSTRALIA BY A MALE PARTNER.

ChazP,

Strange post to follow on from your previous "apology".

You criticise "dehumanising" or "demeaning" rhetoric, but now you claim to be rolling around the floor laughing at RObert's post.

Unhelpful at best, and an unusual way to further meaningful discussion.
Seems it's six of one and half a dozen of the other in the art of insulting dialogue on this thread.

Poirot

As I stated in my last post, the argument has not moved on at all.

No matter what I say it is deemed "wrong" by males or ignored by female posters.

A fine example that neither some males nor some females on this forum have made: some males using intimidating language; scurrilous rubbish, questions about hormones, ad nauseum and some females unable to keep from being baited.

I can only say I am grateful that my circle of family and friends are nothing like this. I had a bad experience while married, I have moved on and do not blame an entire sex for the actions of one control freak, anymore than I blame all women for the bullying I received in the workplace. Of course I have learned and keep my distance from people who are all about themselves - pots and kettles.