Continued.

This change in attitude which most women undergo at childbirth is, in no way imposed on women. As a matter of fact it is often greeted with bewilderment, & frustration by many men.

Many men find themselves living with a totally different creature to the one they married, & one who fits their hopes & plans very poorly. It often stops even mildly adventurous activity.

Fortunately, for some, it does wear off with enough years. That's why you will see very few traveling around Oz, soon after child birth. It is only after many years, usually after they become grandmothers that any of the ladies old adventurous spirit comes to the surface, hence the grey nomads.

It would be a good thing for the country if we could get all women out of any decision making roll, while they are in this cautious "I'm a mother" mode.

Ducks for cover!

i don't know what all the fuss is about,not worth writing about!

The more jobs the female can do the less for me to do and I can concentrate on things I like, such as watching the cricket. I do help with advice. Besides the more occupied they are the less time they have to think up work for me.

My wife once accepted my offer to buy her a ladies chain saw. Thought about it for 10 minutes and then came and gave me the two finger salute and a verbal barrage. Wouldn;t even accept a gift?

Hasbeen,

.....however, your parting comment is the most ridiculous "logic" I've heard!

Perhaps if women "in this condition" had more input, the world of human endeavour might be tempered somewhat and, therfore, not quite as screwed up as it is.

Banjo, on old bloke that I know, bought his wife and axe for
her birthday, as she was complaining about the firewood. So
she bought him a dishwasher :)

I think that Jennifer is simply refusing to accept biological
realities and IMHO women are far better at complaining then men.

Men are more commonly strategic thinkers, women more commonly empathic thinkers. That affects the things for which they have
a natural aptitude and their perception of the world.

Ask most women what is most important in their lives, they will
mention their kids. Why should that not be a valid role? Why
this obsession with women sitting on boards? Alot of those board
meetings are frankly very boring.

“Ironically, it's probably women who hold the key to the radical changes we need. Mothers are usually the primary influence in the infant's life, and carry the main responsibility for initially imposing gendered roles the infant will come to learn are "natural."”

“imposing gendered roles”

That is an unhealthily and suspiciously authoritarian way of putting things

Dress them how you like but I bet boys will still be relatively more “aggressive” and play at war, whilst girls will still be more “nurturing” and play with dolls, regardless the boys are running round in pink frocks and the girls in blue denim…..

It might even be something to do with hormones and their effects on brain development

So Jennifer, forget about imposing or compensating impositions which you think produce what you consider might be less than “natural”

When you have your baby and hopefully, you will not get post-partum depression, you will be happy that it has 10 fingers, 10 toes, two ears, two eyes separated by a nose and it resembles a miniature Winston Churchill.

After that you will be too busy bathing it and changing its nappy, whilst you husband is out working to support his and your responsibility to bother whether your child has a male, female or androgynous assignment.

(- we worry about the androgynous" bit in about another 13-15 years, when the issue of our loins start worrying about their own sexual orientation)

I suggest you just do the best you can for yourself and your family and leave everyone else alone to do the best for themselves

Banjo - "My wife once accepted my offer to buy her a ladies chain saw. Thought about it for 10 minutes and then came and gave me the two finger salute and a verbal barrage. Wouldn;t even accept a gift?"

she was lucky to still have two fingers.....

mind you.... women, chainsaws and PMT is not a healthy mix....

that is why we keep all the heavy dismembering gear in the Big Blue Blokey tool box, secured with a hefty padlock