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Collapseology: why this should be shaping Australian public policy : Comments

By Fiona Heinrichs, published 21/6/2011

The prospect of collapse of the wider global framework puts the Australian immigration and population debate in a new perspective and challenges unquestioned assumptions.

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Gawd 'elp us.

Monckton is on his way back. Leaves me speechless that Climate Change DENIERS (as opposed to true skeptics) put more weight in a British toff, than scientists.

"Monckton’s climate trickery revealed

CLIMATE Denial Crock of the Week video journalist Peter Sinclair offers some of the most lucid and clear presentations debunking climate change deniers available anywhere.

He’s recently turned his attention to Lord Christopher Monckton, who is heading back to Australia in late June 2011 for a second nationwide tour. See my piece on ABC’s The Drum, which shows how last time, Lord Monckton was backed by some of Australia’s mining royalty.

Sinclair finds that the best way to debunk Monckton, is to use the man himself. This video reveals Monckton’s tricks of cherry-picking data, misrepresenting science papers and using short-term trends. Sinclair forces Monckton to give up his sources and finds him wanting. Sometimes, Monckton seems to just plain make stuff up."

Watch the video here:

http://www.readfearn.com/2011/05/monckton-bunkum/
Posted by Ammonite, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 9:32:54 AM
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@Ammonite: Watch the video here http://www.readfearn.com/2011/05/monckton-bunkum/

That was just awesome. A highly enjoyable way of wasting an hour. It's a guilty pleasure though, as it is like watching a monkey throwing poo in a zoo. In polite company you aren't supposed to laugh out loud at the monkey.

Lets hope Monckton has a much rougher time of it this time around. I can understand our press being unused to a British Peer showering them with torrents of bs on the his first tour, and thus allowing themselves to be snowed. No such excuse this time. They know what they are getting, so if they have any integrity at all they will treat him the same way they treated Gail Dines. Which is to say they will put him on a pedestal, so we can all take a guilty pleasure in laughing at the monkey.

And thank you. Today I subscribed to a youtube channel for this first time. Maybe this is the future of journalism.
Posted by rstuart, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 11:13:35 AM
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VK3AUU
Oh quite so.. in fact that's been the case for decades. WA has been likened to a giant flowerpot.. you get out what you put in.. As I also noted, the rate of increase in productivity is lower than it was, so that may be a point of concern but I can't see any indication of collapse.. as noted marginal land here is going out of production after decades of clearing..
Posted by Curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 12:26:56 PM
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Well done Fiona! Your carefully documented article puts to shame the claque that has tried to intimidate you. And you identify with deadly precision the dishonesty of Tony Burke's spin tricks.
Posted by Livio, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 12:33:59 PM
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rstuart
And yes, you're quite right to say that Freud was not a scientist. The problem was that he thought of himself as one and so did a lot of others, and his nonsense infected not only psychiatry, with whole learned journals dedicated to his "science", but other disciplines as well.. sociology comes to mind.. they even invented a displine, psycohistory, proponents of which can still be found.

And all of that occured without a single scrap of what could be described as clinical evidence to back it - just a few dodgy case studies reported by Freud, which were later found to have been misreported.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 1:29:23 PM
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Fiona: congratulations on an amazing book - I couldn't stop reading. It traverses rich and complex subject matter with an accessible and engaging style. The depth and maturity of your work is quite extraordinary. Don't be put off by the customary trolls on OLO - as you may have noticed, most of them can't write a coherent sentence much less grasp the second law of thermodynamics.

Good on you and keep up the great work!
Posted by Ruth1, Thursday, 23 June 2011 12:00:02 AM
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