Phew, I didn't think I was going to get to play my drinking game, with this thread ... until Arjay and Squeers stepped into the breech.

Cheers, lads!

Good on Dr Glikson, and good on popnperish for laying into the naysayers. The most informative article on GW I have seen on OLO yet, and if one took the trouble to delve into the links given (and I mean seriously study, and with an open mind) a much better informed opinion should be the result.

At last we have a studied reference to the paleoclimate record, and reliable empirical science relating that record to present conditions (including clarification of apparent temperature anomalies). Ice sheet reduction and sea-ice contraction are real, and are important signposts of the direction of global temperature change. Amelioration of projected temperature increases due to the effects of sulphurous aerosols is a new one to me, but is the missing component which should finally send the skeptics to the waste paper bin - and none too soon.

A succinct and telling article, with masses of wisdom. The final warning statement is fully justified by the science, and should not be confused with the idiocy of our Govt's ridiculously convoluted response to a direct and compelling problem. (The constant reference to our per capita footprint, with no reference to causation impacts of geography and population distribution is tantamount to purposeful deception, and deserving of the loudest condemnation and outright rejection.)

As Prof Tim Ball also said,why did they exclude the Sun when looking at the affects of CO2? He also notes that very few scientists are actually on the IPCC.Most of them are bureaucrats.

Over 30,000 scientists did sign a petition saying that the affirmative science of AGW is not sound. http://www.petitionproject.org/index.php

You don't hear about this in the pop media.Prof Ball did not sign the petition because he said that this was consensus science similar to that practised by the IPCC.

Over the last 3 yrs we have much cooler winters and more moderate summers.Temps have been falling since 2001.CO2 levels have increased dramatically,so it should be warming.We went from global warming,then climate change and now they are clutching at extreme weather conditions to justify their theories.These things also happened in the 1930's.

Even if their theories were right the taxing of CO2 and an ETS will do nothing to stop the expodential growth of CO2.The aim is to stop production and usher in a World Govt controlled by the UN.Gillard has already signed an agreement that 10% of Carbon taxes will go to the UN.Did you vote for that? Did you vote to have your sovereignty to be dissolved by an foreign power.Before the election both Gillard and Swan swore there would be nop carbon tax.They have no mandate to Govern.All we hear is a litany of lies and deception.

Arjay
'Over 30,000 scientists did sign a petition'
Yes even my grandson is on the list and he is only 15 shows how much you can rely on that petition just a load of rubbish as many others have shown.

Peter A What was his name?Can you identify him on the list and his credentials.

That's all very well, Arjay.

>>Over 30,000 scientists did sign a petition saying that the affirmative science of AGW is not sound.<<

But where are the 1,511 architects, and 12,241 "other supporters"?

http://www.ae911truth.org/

Or are they already included in your numbers?