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Government deception won't reduce family violence : Comments
By Greg Andresen, published 9/6/2011The truth is that violence in families is an equal opportunity crime.
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Posted by suzeonline, Monday, 13 June 2011 10:25:22 AM
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Ammonite, "That is the only solution to halt the actions of these lying conniving women if what JamesH, Chazp, Robert, Benk and others claim is true."
Where have I, James or Benk ever suggested that men are any better than women? What we are quite clearly asking for is equal treatment before the law with an assumption that both genders can be great parents and both are quite capable of being disgusting parents and quite capable of lying, misrepresentation etc. I get the impression that you know that and your response to this thread is the same old deliberate misrepresention which has been used for years. Sad. Suzie, you know better as well. Why cheer on that kind of lie? R0bert Posted by R0bert, Monday, 13 June 2011 11:53:27 AM
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You know, it was worth biting my tongue, [it was so far out in my cheek], to find out just how rabid these attack dog women's libbers really are.
Good on you girls. Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 13 June 2011 11:57:09 AM
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Jeez Rob I dunno where I got the idea that a particular coterie of male posters never write anything positive about women. Maybe it was upon reading through the comments on this topic, like the unwarranted attacks on Michael Flood, the faux statistics and so on.
I am sure you are concerned about child welfare and like your fellow posters are putting your money where your mouth is and have applied and qualified as foster parents for abused children. In which case, once you are in fact caring for these children will have little time left to accuse women as more irresponsible and violent than men. Posted by Ammonite, Monday, 13 June 2011 12:06:57 PM
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"will have little time left to accuse women as more irresponsible and violent than men." - yet again another lie.
I certain that I've never done that nor implied it. I'm honest enough to admit that I think that the adult's needs should be part of the equation. I've been quite clear on that for years. I object to the pretense that it's just about child welfare when that's not the reality. Adult's lives matter and solutions that pretend that's not the case or use a pretense of child welfare as an excuse to be grossly unfair end up hurting everyone involved regardless of the perceived short term gain's. Frankly I doubt that I'm cut out to do well as a foster carer nor do I see applying and being accepted as a valid prerequisite to having an opinion on the consequences of bias in the family law system. I am the resident parent for my own son. A job that I mostly do well (but not perfect). I worked hard over the years to try and do so in a co-operative manner with his mother, again not always perfect but as well as I've been able. I've chosen not to persue child support because I believe that the conflict created from doing so would far outweigh any benefit's that might come from it. Maybe time to stop telling lies about other posters and start having a think about why you find it necessary to do so. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Monday, 13 June 2011 1:06:51 PM
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False Allegations Summit conducted May 2-4, 2011 in DC
http://networkedblogs.com/j0Hg3 Survey found tens of millions of Americans have been falsely accused of abuse after the VAWA was introduced. In 81% of the cases the falsely accused person was a male, and in 70% of cases the false alleger was a female. Twenty-six percent of the wrongful accusations were made in the context of a child custody dispute. These persons were stamped with the scarlet Abuser label, leaving them to wonder whatever happened to the notion of ‘innocent until proven guilty' The need for a summit shows the immense, often irreparable harm caused to our clients by false allegations, not only to reputation and personal relationships, but often to the accused individual’s livelihood and even heath. Posted by Howard Beale, Monday, 13 June 2011 2:46:51 PM
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You're right of course.
I have often wondered what would happen if the family courts suddenly agreed that there has been this massive conspiracy for years against men, and awarded kids full-time to all fathers as a matter of course.
Can you imagine the amazing sudden increase in childcare centres?
The rigours of breastfeeding would be a thing of the past...
Would we then see a massive decrease in domestic violence, child abuse and child neglect?
Oh absolutely.