Rubbish JamesH! Suddenly someone is sprouting the virtues of a university employee, only when they write something to prop up your anti-female agenda!

We are talking about family violence here, not child neglect, which of course would be perpetrated more often by women, given that they are with the children more often.

By saying that step-fathers do much of the domestic violence against women and children, I am assuming you think none of them are ever biological fathers as well?

I doubt anything anyone could say would change your mind about who does or doesn't perpetrate family violence, or that children are foremost in the mind of most 'feminists'.

Come on Suzie, these comparisons are totally unreasonable.

You are comparing the behaviour of wives, who of course live with perfectly reasonable rational men, with that of husbands who live with unreasonable irrational women.

The only fair comparison would be to compare men with lesbian partners who probably suffer similarly to the men, in the irrationality of their partners.

Unfortunately due to our politically correct academia, I don't think there has been a study on this subject. If there were such studies conducted, the results must have been so damming that their publication has been prevented by all those academic womens libbers.

Yes Pelican, many men lie during family court proceedings. Please feel free to shout about this from the rooftops. Only when it is understood that women can also become victims of false allegations that some people will see the need for open-minded investigations of allegations of child-abuse.

Some people lie. You know it, I know it, its only fair that family court proceedings allow for this unfortunate reality.

"True RObert, but how many times do any of the usual protesters on OLO ever acknowledge that men lie in child custody cases."

Far more often than some of the maternal bias crowd will acknowledge the times that it's women doing the wrong thing.

Again most of the men involved in this want a system that does not pre-judge according to gender. We are honest enough to admit that the adult's needs should be part of the process rather than the pretense used by the maternal bias crowd - "It's all about the children" with the subtext that the childrens needs happen to coincide with the mothers.

I doubt that if looked at honestly you will find a valid case to suggest that most of the male posters in these threads deny that men do the wrong thing, you won't find a denial of male violence. The comments are about a system that is in denial of female wrongdoing in family law.

Some make a lot of noise about taking gender out of the debate but have a look at how often those who bleat the loudest about that attack men and how rarely they acknowledge wrongdoing by women.

R0bert

I take it JamesH and Hasbeen from your responses that you are uncaring and unconcerned about protecting children from harm consequent to Family Court proceedings, and your only interest is in who to blame when such occurs, your preference being driven by a deeply prejudiced and bigoted hatred of females. How exactly does that protect children?.
If, as you claim, men are the major sufferers of domestic violence and are least to blame for child abuse, then it is logical that men would have most to gain from this legislation and will be welcoming it with open arms to support their position and mothers will have most to lose, if your statistics on domestic violence and child abuse by females hold any validity. The fact that such statistics have no validity is of course, when you lose all confidence in the legislation, because you know the converse to be true.
Why is it that you are completely unable to discuss the needs, wishes, feelings, and rights of children and young people in Family Court proceedings?. Is it because you have no value or respect of children and young people, or that many of them will say they don’t wish to have contact with an abusive parent.?. Why is it you give so little worth to children and young people and see them merely as parental possessions and are quite happy for them to be chopped up so mothers and fathers can have a piece each, dependent on how convincing they are in the degradation of the other in a Court of law?. Maybe you would prefer Solomon’s law in determining how a child should be divided up.?.

Clearly women are utterly useless at caring for children.

We have the technology, lets ensure that males can become pregnant, carry the child to term and be held responsible of all care of children. That is the only solution to halt the actions of these lying conniving women if what JamesH, Chazp, Robert, Benk and others claim is true.

How did such evil, evil people as women wind up as primary care-givers?

Men it is time to take a stand and responsiblity for child care, you still hold the balance of power in government and business - act now before we are all doomed by the harridans of which you speak.