Yassir, tell me... Will you condemn the evil actions of your dear prophet? I mentioned a few of the many vile deeds proudly narrated by his friends and followers in my previous post above, but I can easily give specifics.

I assume you have read the hadith and/or early histories by Tabari, kathir, Hisham, Ibn Said and others, so it should be obvious to you what I am talking about. Note that many/most of these are online so I can help you learn if you are unaware of these texts. Just ask if you want references and links :) <--- That is a smurk, not a smile

Please don't try the old "out of context" "You don't understand" "That was then" "bad translation" and "everybody did it" excuses with me. I am too old for silly words or fancy misrepresentations. The texts are very clear.

Or perhaps you would like to argue that the hate and violence in the Quran and ahadith have nothing to do with the hate and violence Muslims do today? Is that it? Now that is an amusing thought!

Jay kactuz

Is it just me?

Or is OLO over-dosing on religious topics? Just a question, not trying to cause trouble, moving away quietly, hoping I don't upset anyone.

I thought this article was extremely well written. I am appalled at some of the responses. I think of the work of people like Donna Jacobs Sife and the Together for Humanity Organisation who work to try and break down cultural myths and stereotypes and build bridges to peace.

And then there are people like StephenLMyer, Hasbeen and kactuz promoting the very opposite.

How easy it is to buy into fear rather than get an education.

ShelO

How easy it is to buy into (feel-good myths) rather than get a (real) education.

And, how easy it is to buy into feel-good myths rather than face up to unpleasant realities.

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Yassir

I did not “engage” with the article as you put it because I saw nothing worthy of engagement. Just the usual flim-flam.

You write:

>>So I guess they are just automatically unfamiliar to "free speech" because they are Muslim>>

I do not know about the authors but, in my experience, many practising Muslims do NOT appear to understand the concept of free speech. In particular they often do not understand that true free speech gives me the absolute right to express my contempt for ANY belief system and ANY historical figure including Islam’s (probably non-existent) “prophet.”

You write:

>>Maybe you should get use to the way Muslims use their freedom of speech to talk back instead of apologising.>>

LOL

I have never tried to stop Muslims or adherents of any other belief system from publishing whatever they like. Free speech is indivisible.

From my perspective anything short of actual and EXPLICT incitement to violence is permitted.

So “talk back” as much as you like.

I am merely exercising my right to “talk back” to some Muslim “talk back”

Maybe you had better get used to the idea that not everybody is deceived by the politically correct picture of Islam so beloved by self-righteous ABC pundits and the spokespersons of human rights industry.

You're not alone Ammo.

These religious topic overdoses can result in theophobia which could then induce allodoxaphobia and where would OLO be then?

Hay ShelO old mate, I'm quite prepared to help you with your education.

I could introduce you to my son, who had 4 muslim thugs jump out of a car & attack him, while he was walking home from work. The x rays of his skull, cracked in 4 places may help with that education.

Better still, jump in the car, & I'll drop you off in the centre of either of a couple of enclaves in Sydney.

Unless you look like a Lebanese your education will be somewhat improved, if you survive, by the time you emerge.