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Some facts about the Middle-East : Comments

By Steven Meyer, published 5/5/2011

The Middle-East is fast running out of lots of things, but not people.

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CHERFUL. Why do you not address the extremely oppressive attacks by Israel on the Palistinians.Are they not the chosen people too?
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 6 May 2011 9:40:41 PM
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ARJAY<why do you not address the extremely oppressive acts by Israel
On the Palistinians, are they not the chosen people too.

Both sides are just ordinary people locked in a tribal fight over the land.

No country in the world wanted to take the hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees in, after world war two. The British who were in control in Palestine after the war, decided to create a homeland for them in Palestine
Thus creating the bloody territorial fight we are witnessing today.

After the British withdrew,a few of the Arab nations raced over and attacked the Jews in the six day war. So named because the Arabs were defeated in 6days. After Hitlers genocide of the Jews, they were never again going to be unprepared. Even the Jewish women had to do national military training.

I once got called a racist on this forum because I said the Jews were also instrumental in the genocide in Germany because they made no attempt to
To intergrate and live as one with the German people instead they preferred to practise tribal apartheid in the guise of religion. The Germans feared the eventual loss of their country to the Jews. I am not condoning the horrific acts by the Germans, merely dispassionately examining what triggered the atrocity.

With the ever spreading populations of the Jews and Palistinians of course their will be attempted genocide over control of the land, isn’t this happening in many countries where there is conflict in the world already.
Anyway I think we have digressed from the original thrust of this article which is trying to look for solutions to the problems of not enough resources to sustain unrestrained breeding in the middle-east and maybe lessen the disastrous outcomes that will ensue from this in one way or another. Doesn’t look as though it will be solved any time soon
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 8 May 2011 12:22:14 AM
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CHERFUL wrote:

>>I once got called a racist on this forum because I said the Jews were also instrumental in the genocide in Germany because they made no attempt to
To intergrate and live as one with the German people instead they preferred to practise tribal apartheid in the guise of religion. The Germans feared the eventual loss of their country to the Jews.>>

--You are aware that in the 1930s Jews made up less than 1% of the population of Germany?

--You are aware that in the 1930s Germans outnumbered Jews by four to one globally?

--You are aware that many of the Jews in Hitler's concentration camps NEVER considered themselves Jewish. Many of them were Christians. They were incarcerated and evenutally killed because they had an ethnically Jewish parent or grandparent?

--You do know that some Wehrmacht soldiers on leave after the invading Poland went back home to find parents or grandparents had been put into concentration camps because THEY had a Jewish parent or grandparent?

--You are aware that in proportion to population there are three times as many Muslims in Australia today as there were Jews in Germany in the 1930s? What do you suggest Australians do?
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 8 May 2011 7:41:47 AM
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Stevenlmeyer<you are aware that in the 1930‘s the Jews made up 1% of the German population.>

To understand the German need to take back the entire wealth of their country even though the Jews only numbered 1% you have to also take into account the devastating effects that the Great Depression had on the economy of Germany in the early 1930’s.

After the wall street crash America gave Germany 90days to start to repay money loaned to her to prop Germany up after world War 1. Companies
Throughout Germany--primarily industrial zones in the Ruhr-went bankrupt
And workers were laid off in their millions. By January, 1933, there were
6,100,000workers unemployed in Germany. A huge percentage of these were male and family men. Money was required for food,heating a home, clothes etc. (wikipedia_

An economic war erupted between the Jews and the Germans, there was wide spread violence and hooliganism directed at Jewish Businesses and individuals. Preventing people from entering Jewish shops.

The Jews retaliated by imposing a long-term boycott of German Goods,
In March 1933. The UK Newspaper, Daily Express went so far as to put as a headline “Judea Declares War on Germany”.

The Nuremberg Laws, 1935, banned all Jews from government,municipal and Private employment and also from universities and from working as Doctors etc.

These economic showdowns between the Germans and the Jews were literally about survival, providing food for your family. Not enough of the pie to go round. And of course non-intregration, no blood-line connections.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 8 May 2011 11:40:19 PM
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…….continued
Stevenlmeyer you asked<you are aware that in the 1930’s the Germans outnumbered the Jews four to one?)

The economic hostility between the Germans and the Jews goes back
Many centuries to a time when the Germans ruled much of Austria and the Polish area. The Romans conquered this region and took it off the Germans. The Romans played the Germans and Jews off against each other for economic privileges. One of the Roman overseers wrote down in his reports at the time. (wikipedia) Fights would break out in the towns between the Jews and the Germans and it was never over religion it was always over economics.

As the Germans invaded Austria, Poland Denmark, the Netherland,Belgian,France,they wiped out as many people with any kind of Jewish bloodlink they could find,resulting in the Death and disappearance and displacement of an estimated 6,000,000 Jews. The article also stated that it is believed if a lot of the other ethnic minorities and groups that were targeted as they advanced through countries were counted the figure would stand more around 9million.

Sounds like a high number, but the Japanese massacred 15million Chinese
In the 2years leading up to World War 2. Makes 9million seem small. It
Doesn’t get much attention because they didn’t use gas ovens.
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 9 May 2011 12:31:23 AM
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To your last question Stevenlmeyer:-
<you are aware that in proportion to population there are 3 times as many
Muslims in Australia today as there were Jews in Germany in the 1930’s?
What do you suggest Australians do?

I will have to take a stab at answering this tomorrow as it is now 1.30am
And I need to get some sleep. I will say, in the words of Dr Phil, “You can’t solve a problem if you don’t acknowledge or accept there is a problem.” That is the first task in solving the problem,getting people to accept truth and reality, instead of idealism or goody two shoes delusions.

Keeping a sustainable population, to ease competition for resources, is one solution that springs to mind. Too tired, good night Steven and all you great On Line Opinioners out there.
Posted by CHERFUL, Monday, 9 May 2011 1:54:00 AM
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