Seneca and Stevenmeier, There is a big difference between Australian treatment of Aboriginies and the behaviour of Israel. For starters all aboriginals are Australian Citizens. While there may be plenty of discrimination against them, none of this is official state sanctioned discrimination. All aboriginals have the vote and the right to run for parliament. There are no aboriginal refugees who are being prevented from returning to their homes in Australia. Therefore there is no comparison between the situation of Australian aborigines and Palestinians.
With regard to Australians "obsession" with Israel, this is not surprising. While there are many other countries who commit at least equivalent human rights abuses, none of these are close allies of ours. Our parliamentarians do not honour the Saudi Arabians in our parliament. Nor do we honour Robert Mugabe.
Israel refers to itself as a liberal democracy and the only democracy in the middle east. If you claim to be a liberal democracy then you need to act like one. This means not carrying on a 44 year military occupation and not indulging in the widespread killing of civilians in neighbouring countries.
Imagine if the UK had bombed Catholic neighbourhoods in Northern Ireland during the IRA terrorist campaigns. I'm sure we would have condemned them too if they had done such a thing.

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Seneca,

I've just been informed of a typo.

Not FOFO but FOMO

So line of my previous post should read:

>>It's called Israel Obsession Disorder or IOD. It's the latest thing in mental illness except for FOMO.>>

The liberation of Palistine is all about the liberation of humanity.If the Global elites can carry out clandestine marginalisation and extermination of this small population,what will they do when they decide that there are too many of us infringing upon their rights of Global Imperialism?Remember that they see too many humans on the planet destroying their environment and using up their energy and resources.

This is about the freedom of all humanity and not a select few who see their power as some biblical manifest destiny.I include lunatic Christians,Muslims,Zionists, Buddists,Hindus and callithumpians in my definition.Wake up,we are all about to become extinct in the name of ego.

"I include lunatic Christians,Muslims,Zionists, Buddists,Hindus and callithumpians in my definition"

Dear Arjay,

You forgot to include one very important category: ANYONE OVER 25.
They should all be blasted, let the world be liberated of all grey hair, yay!

Just stopped by and saw everyone enjoying a great orgy of hate like there's no tomorrow, so let no facts hinder your celebration, I'll be on my way now...

Mendez seems to be implying that there can be a negotiated peace between the Arabs and the Jews.

Sorry mate, I can’t agree with you at all. What we have is two mutually hostile tribes fighting over the ownership of a microscopic piece of territory that has great symbolic significance for both sides. For the Jews, Israel is their ancestral home which is a refuge for any Jew facing persecution anywhere else in the world. The only way you are going to shift them is to do what the Romans and the Babylonians did previously, and exterminate the lot of them. Of course, the Arabs are very happy to emulate this final solution.

To the Arabs, Israel is the home of a false religion which was conquered by Islam, and it is utterly unacceptable for a defeated religion to rise again on land conquered by Muslim armies. Nothing less than the complete obliteration of Israel is acceptable to the Arabs, and anyone who thinks differently is a quarter-wit.

But here in the west, we have idealistic Socialists who are unable to grasp the unpleasant facts of life. Unable to understand the absolute need for cultural groups to define a territory that are prepared to defend, where their own cultural values are pre eminent, they live in a fantasy land where a country can exist with ethnic groups who have diametrically opposing values.

They see all human conflict in terms of “oppressors” and “victims” and who is what is easy to figure out. The winners are the “oppressors”, and the losers are the “victims”. Once upon a time, the Jews were most definitely the victims who people like Marrackville Council supported to the hilt. But unfortunately for the Israelis, they kept winning, so they lost their victim status and are now the “oppressors”.

There are only two outcomes here. Either the Arabs win, in which case they will murder and rape every Israeli they can before expelling the survivors, or the Jews will keep holding them off until the Muslims run out of oil and revert to total poverty and inconsequence.

LEGO, as distasteful as your perceived outcome is, I agree with your conclusion.

I have Israeli friends and also know some Egyptian arabs and they all agree, the arabs want "their" land back and the Israelis want peace.

Different goals that will never be reconciled.

The usual poisonous hatred is expressed in the posts, no solutions, but it is an outlet for people's emotions. If that's as far as it goes, fine.

The Americans are never going to allow Israel to be overun or demolished by hateful enemies. You wonder if it happened if the UN would step in, I doubt it, the UN are such a picky toothless tiger.

Mind you, I never thought there would be peace in Northern Ireland, but it came when the Americans agreed to stop supplying the IRA with weaponry and financial support, after all, you can't ask everyone to stop funding terrorists, if you are doing it!

If the terrorists/"freedom fighters" in Gaza and the West Bank were deprived of weaponry and financial support, would they find a way to a peace deal? Only if all the other arab countries stop using them a s proxy for their hatred I'm guessing.

The Israelis can't end this, only the arabs can. Whether you like it or not, that's the cold hard fact.

LEGO's comment though does give an interesting timescale, will the arabs run out of oil and fold? Are they too stupid to invest in their own economies and people, it seems that way. Right now Libya is non functional as all the foreigners who run everything, are gone. Saudi and all the other countries in the region similarly use foreigners to run their crucial assets, since it's cheaper than educating their populace, or developing an education system that pumps out more than sycophants and arts grads. Israel has built into a formidable arms developer, because of the arab pressure. I'll bet the arabs are all happy that they actually drove that development.