You might have a look at the polls, Sophie, and notice that Australians are no longer fooled by the AGW fraud. Australia’s production of carbon dioxide is infinitesimal in scale, and if we stopped all emissions it would make no difference to climate.

We have noticed that the increase in CO2 in the atmosphere, over the last 12 years, has not been reflected in any rise in temperature. The globe has probably been cooling since 1998, and has certainly not warmed. The greenhouse gas theory needs some reconsideration.

The Climategate emails have shown the disgraceful conduct of the scientists associated with the IPCC, in their efforts to “hide the decline” in temperature.

Without their “adjustments” and “homogeonisation”, and fraudulent interference with data relating to temperature, before its publication, the true cooling trend would very likely be shown.

Why you think that Getup’s deadbeats hitting the streets has any significance, is no doubt a reflection on your mental processes. It is a knee jerk reaction to the Realists campaign, which has only just begun, and Getup's baseless “campaign” is of no significance. We all know that the rabid Left can raise ferals for street marches.

The campaign against Juliar’s intended tax on breathing, from which she intends to pay $10 billion a year to the international leech, the United Nations, has only just begun. Her true intention is to fund this parasitic organisation.

No one in their right mind could see this iniquitous tax having any effect on climate. The global temperature will not alter a fraction of a degree if this tax is perpetrated.

You say: "one logical, rational and economically viable response to climate change". Where do you dredge up these words, Sophie? You obviously have no idea what they mean.

Sophie,

Looking at the polls, I would say that your claim of a round one victory is a little premature. The opponents of the carbon tax might be less motivated to march, but the real issue is how they vote.

When Julia lied about a carbon tax her credibility was damaged and people now refer to her as Juliar, and take what she says with a pinch of salt.

A tax on carbon whether it is a straight tax or an ETS increases the cost of doing anything. While the cost of electricity is the most obvious and can be compensated for, the cost of groceries, manufactured goods and other services are less obvious and cannot be directly compensated.

This is a direct tax on the cost of living, and the average person in the street is not stupid enough to believe that it will not affect them.

Sophia

Your effort to help street kids is commendable. You might be a good evangelist however your faith in pseudo science is a dud. The best you can do is be the blind leading the blind. Return to something useful.

Sophie - you have made the mistake, common to activists, to equate street protests with public feeling. In fact there is academic research around, I can't cite chapter and verse here, to indicate that they are no indicator and that they do not affect public opinion.

The point of a demonstration is to make the demonstrators feel better, and express their point of view.

When Howard decided to get Aus involved in the Iraq war. the demonstrations were massive but he went ahead anyway. The polls did not change and he won the next election (he went out the election after that, after being in much longer than he should have..).

The carbon tax is a total waste of time. Its sole effect will be to hurt Gillard in the polls, which may be no bad thing.

round 1 .. hang on, I thought round 1 was Copenhagen, or the various rallys at parliament house in Canberra, over the last few years?

I didn't realise round 1, obviously you assume an adversarial system, is Australians against Australians? Yes, is that your view?

getup! thought so, their adverts see a "competition" and their boast of, we can get a bigger crowd, so was it "beating" conservatives or reducing .. what, Carbon, CO2? temperature? I suspect the motivation is more political than environmental

most conservatives don't much care what you think sophie, but care about what our government does

is this a left/right thing

this will be a rallying cry now, for the forces of left to "compete" with the evil "deniers" of the right .. correct .. so Australians against Australians ..

this is people protesting against a government, not some left wing childrens climate club or the paid rent a crowd, with pre printed signs from getup ..

are you against people demonstrating about what they believe in?

have you thought of what you will do if you "lose the fight" sophie?

what then?

leave town?

go somewhere else .. don't turn this into a fight against your countrymen and women .. it's not worth it.

if you "win", and inflict a lower standard of living on Australians .. by political trickery and lobbying ..

it might be a bitter win, particularly if you frame it as winning against other Australians, and boast about it and rub it in ..

what will that achieve?

How many degrees C will you be able to tell your children you reduced the world temperature by? Or will you tell your children you reduced people's frivolous lifestyle by using CO2 as a bait and switch trick .. is this just about socialism?

"It is this adhoc handful of individuals who are trying to convince the Australian public to hit the streets using cheap fear mongering tactics."

So an AGW alarmist is accusing the anti-carbon-tax movement of scaremongering? Pot, meet kettle!

No doubt the handful of environmentalist loonies who are trying to link the Japanese and New Zealand earthquakes to global warming are among your valued allies? Or do you think they may have gone just a leetle too far this time?