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Round one – a price on carbon : Comments

By Sophie Trevitt, published 15/3/2011

Conservative forces failed on Saturday to prove their rhetoric of a 'people's revolution' against a carbon tax.

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Sophie is obiviously a deniar of the existance of a carbon tax protest movement.We longer believe the lies Sophie.Big business want an ETS,ie Emitions Trading Scam, to create a new derivative market and take us all to the cleaners once again.

It is time to stand up to the looney Green left and the elites in business who are feeding us lies and deception.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 5:07:09 PM
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assuming no change to industry and growth continues we would be in excess of the copenhagen target by 130Mt/yr.
1 ha of forest plantation can provide a carbon sink of between 40-60t of co2. cost of establishment between $1500-2500/ha. Establishing 2Mha of Forestry plantation basically meets the Copenhagen targets and can be achieved with an establishment cost of between $3B-$5B.
Only 0.5% of land used for livestock grazing would be required to establish the plantation. cost of establishment could be offset from future timber sales or sale of biofuel for transport and/or electricity generation.
using dedicated new forests as a source of biofuels has the benefit of not distorting food prices like corn to ethanol.
please can people remember the war is about reducing co2 emissions, not creating an esoterical trading derivative.
Posted by slasher, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 5:12:53 PM
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Sophie,

I understand you as a left leaning youngster. That's fine and you are entitled to your opinion. Mine's a different one to yours and to the big polluters. We're all entitled to our vote too.

Now all you need is a little lesson in our parliamentary democracy.

Look up the meaning of the word mandate.

Gillard doesn't recognise it but Howard did.

Howard asked the Australian people if they wanted a GST. He did it at an election.
Julia has introduced a carbon tax after specifically ruling it out at the election she won. She hasn't a mandate to introduce one. Australians will punish her for her arrogrance.

If she had John Howards decency or any shred of decency she'd ask all Australians if they wanted a Carbon Tax at an election.

That's how democracies usually work. Julia's usurping and imposing her greenie view upon us all.

Her leadership is now terminal, the greens will go into decline and suffer the ignomany of the Democrats and labors done it's final dash, for many generations.

You are going to see Liberal National coalitions throughout your life time in Australia. They are the only parties who have kept faith with our democratic system and Australians ... and we all know it.

We all vote, the greens and labor seem to have forgotten that.
Posted by keith, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 5:45:36 PM
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Sophie is studying Arts/Law at Sydney University.
Doesn't that explain it all ?
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 7:45:33 AM
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Gillard has now admitted, or was it boasted, that when she promised she would not have a carbon [dioxide] tax in a government she led, she was still planning to introduce a trading scheme.

Every one of course believed that "no carbon [dioxide] tax" meant no charge on CO2 emissions. Not so our Julia. She obviously thinks that it's OK to lie, if you do it sideways. In fact, I think she may be proud of practicing such cleaver deception.

I wonder if that is something they teach in Arts/Law, that if you lie, without actually saying the words, it's cleaver/smartass thing to do.

Just what you want in a PM.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 9:03:24 AM
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BJelly, AGW trolls like you are boring.

Your first sentence is a pretence that you are sensible. You then make a statement which is vaguely reminiscent of the way the pompous clown Ross Garnaut covers his unsupported nonsense statements about AGW, by referring to non existent scientific support for his baseless assertions.

If you have any scientific basis for the assertion of AGW, BJelly, state it, and leave out the baseless nonsense.

Over the billions of years that there has been life on Earth, there have been numerous mass extinctions. Humans have not been around for them, and have nothing to do with the current one, if it is happening. The oceans are not more acidic, that is a straight out lie.There are no greater extremes of weather, rather the reverse, if you cared to check.

Acid rain was another greenie lie, promoted by that poor deranged woman Rachel Carson, and now shown to be a delusion.

At least you can count. Yes we only have one planet. If you want your grandchildren to enjoy it, stop supporting a tax based on lies, which will pay billions to a bloodsucking parasite, the United Nations, and reduce our standard of living.

You have followed standard procedure, and stated standard nonsense slogans, for an AGW troll. We have heard them all before, and wonder why you are not embarrassed at making such fools of yourselves.
Posted by Leo Lane, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 9:56:15 AM
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