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Multiculturalism – what the figures really mean : Comments

By Graham Cooke, published 10/3/2011

Racism is relative, but even with the best relativities in Australia it is still shocking.

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Lego,

I would like to retract my agreement about your definition of racism and subsequently state -

"Racism can be defined by the concept that someone claims one race is superior to another".

Nowhere else have I agreed with your racist rants, and I now repudiate them. My general comments about some phenotypic characteristics being a result of evolution, and some Not, was to try to water down your exaggerated claims. Agreeing that any national, race or ethnic group has *some* genetic material that confers some advantage in some environments is NOT racism.

Do not overstate my attempts to moderate your tone.

I will not interact with you on this thread again.
Posted by McReal, Saturday, 12 March 2011 5:53:25 AM
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Australia is an Anglo ruled nation that immigrates many races and faiths purely for GST Federal power and for the sole benefit of Heather Ridout's Mass market profiteer Corporations, while externalising the costs of such massive migration to hard working mums and dads.

This SMH article http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/take-a-look-north-for-the-road-ahead-20110311-1br72.html
highlights the stupidity and unsustainability of this "backwater" governing mentality.

RACISM is merely a side effect, a very small part of the overall consequences of overcrowding designed for one purpose only: To razz people up so they will spend more money and give the Federal Governmet Anglos cult a bigger economy to play with.

AFAICS true Racism doesn't exist in Australia. What we are seeing is just survival instincts rising in decent people who have been overcrowded like holocaust victims in cattle-cars. Only, our gas chambers are Big-W, Coles,Aldi stores and choked freeways. They won't destroy you straight away but like those WWII cattle cars we will destroy each other out of misguided survival soon enough.

Keep immigrating and Australia won't be fit to live or raise kids. And it will be because of GREED not racism.

Also its been my experience that experts in anti-racism are usually rallying for more immigration, either because they wish to politically strengthen a particular race or because they have profitable externalised cost business investments that GROW on more & more immigrants. Its also my experience these people never live next door to any race other than their own. Such is the corruption stemming from the very highest offices in this land.
Posted by KAEP, Saturday, 12 March 2011 9:00:46 AM
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McReal writes
'Racism can be defined by the concept that someone claims one race is superior to another

Should the evolution fantasy be true you could come to no other logical conclusion.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 12 March 2011 9:34:05 AM
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Runner writes:

>>Should the evolution fantasy be true you could come to no other logical conclusion [that one race is superior to another].>>

Evolution is not a fantasy but runner does have a point.

I do not like the word race which is rather ill-defined. I prefer the word deme.

I cannot improve on the Wikipedia definition:

>>In biology, a deme is a term for a local population of organisms of one species that actively interbreed with one another and share a distinct gene pool. When demes are isolated for a very long time they can become distinct subspecies or species.>>

So people from East Africa and West Africa may loosely speaking be said to belong to the same “race” but they belong to different demes.

Given what we have learned in the past decade about evolution and how fast organisms can evolve we certainly cannot rule out the possibility that different demes have a different spread of talents and abilities.

We also have to consider the “founder effect.” I cannot improve on the definition given by the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)

>>When a population is very small after the movement of some individuals to a new area that is unoccupied, the genetic makeup of that new group will differ from the makeup of their original source area just by random chance depending on the genetic structure of the founding individuals.>>

The human race originated in Africa and spread to the rest of the world in three great waves of migration. We cannot know whether the people who left Africa were a representative sample of those who remained behind.

What is more it is possible that by sheer chance there were genomic differences between the groups that populated Europe and those that populated Asia.

I am not saying different demes do differ in eg intelligence. I’m just saying we cannot rule out the possibility.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Saturday, 12 March 2011 10:35:39 AM
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Dear Mr McReal

I am not surprised that you are now retracting your previous statement, as it has obviously occured to you that you have just shot yourself in the foot.

The reason why I am running rings around you and making a fool of you, is because your belief that all races are equal is incorrect. It is simply an article of faith which you have accepted without question. You have also accepted the fashionable view that all racists are uneducated, cretinous, black hearted villains, who need to be put in place by "intelligent" and educated people such as your good self.

The problem is, that you have just bumped into a racist who does not conform to your stereotype. Your thinking is entirely subjective, and you need to switch on your brain's critical analysis circuit and begin to understand the subject of racism objectively. Because if you don't, I am going to continue running rings around you.

Racism is normal and natural. What keeps all communities together is the shared values of what constitutes correct behaviour. People feel safe withing their own communities, and they can be very leery of people from other races, religions and cultures who live among them, especially if the behaviour of the new arrivals is detrimental to the safety and prosperity of the host population.

People can be tolerant of minorities, provided that the minorities obey the laws of the primary culture, and are not threatening the status quo through rising numbers, caused by high rates of immigration or birthrate differentials.

Because if a minorities numbers are increasing, especially minorities who's cultural practices are diametrically opposed to that of the host culture, THAT is when the trouble starts. No people have ever accepted becoming a minority within their own territory to an alien culture without hostility towards the people who are invading their territory.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 12 March 2011 11:23:53 AM
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Thankfully all man is equal under God rather than the pervese conclusions drawn from a fantasy. All customs and traditions however are not the same. Many aborginal practices before and after white man arrived were and are nothing short of barbaric. The murder of the unborn by much of white culture is sanitized but even more abhorrent considering we should know better. The godless secularist have created an ernormous vacumm for the barbaric religion of Islam to spread. God shows no favourtism when it comes to forgiveness. All who call on His Son will be saved. He is the only true equalizer of race, colour and gender.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 12 March 2011 12:20:57 PM
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