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Multiculturalism: at what point does it stop being an inherent good? : Comments

By Jenny Goldie, published 25/2/2011

Can multiculturalism be good when it incorporates cultures which do not mirror our own liberal, humanitarian and egalitarian culture?

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Jenny writes:

“But when a woman from whatever culture – and it may not be Muslim – is denied her full right to personhood, then it is a problem. When little girls are subjected to female genital circumcision, it is a problem. When gangs adopt an 'eye for an eye' approach, when individuals call for the death penalty, when the Australian 'fair go' ethos is rejected, it is a problem.”

Er, hang on a minute, when did Chris Bowen advocate female genital mutilation, gang violence and the oppression of women? The answer is of course that he didn’t, and nor would any other person I can think of who supports multiculturalism. Multiculturalism does not put any group of citizens above the law, it gives then freedom to live as they choose within the bounds of the law.

The real enemies of the Australian "fair go" ethos are people like Jenny, who attack a straw man of multiculturalism to enforce conformity to their chosen cultural norms
Posted by Rhian, Friday, 25 February 2011 2:56:28 PM
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And as for Sheikh Hilaly's revolting comparison of a woman to a lump of meat, what about this:

Back when Greeks were the ethnic group Australians were busy taking a set against, there was a joke about where you'd find all the flies gathered at a Greek wedding - punch line - on the bride.

Somebody please point out the difference, because I don't see one.
Posted by briar rose, Friday, 25 February 2011 3:14:49 PM
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It is almost impossible to argue with the rational comment from Jenny in her article. Our aim should be to develop a multiracial society. There are now too many demands for us to shed our long held Australian values, some demands being extreme and unacceptable and thereby forcing Australians to be ‘at odds with those values we cherish’. One must be aware of grafting politicians to swim with the tide, coveting any votes at any price.

We don’t just cherish these values today, they are not values we have only developed in the last year. Instead, they are what we have decided we want from our lives, for our children, seemingly with little variance from the majority of Australians since all their lives. I for one do not want to change. Within reason, I like what Australia is, what it has always been. I always felt that if I disagreed with something, I could argue my case in whatever forum I chose

However, on this subject, I agonise over the quality and understanding of our political representatives as they have never been as poor than they are now. But I am comfortable in knowing that baring insidious factional influence, a la NSW, reflected in corruption by threat or undue influence particularly under the Federal Labor government, I can make an effort to change them with my one vote. I cannot ask for more than that.

In many cases, we blame the traditions of new migrants for their unusual cultural habits, forgetting that like Christianity they have been indoctrinated all their lives. They know nothing else. The one factor receiving little consideration in the assessment of future migrants is their ability to socially integrate. How you do that, I do not know but after 60 years of accepting migrants, for the good of this country, someone should find out ......soon.

So, any politician, who, after reading discussions on this subject, still does not realise that this is a matter of great concern to every Australian, should go back to their electorate and resign.

To most people, nothing is more important
Posted by Rhys Stanley, Friday, 25 February 2011 3:27:42 PM
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Excellent article.

And I'm glad someone understands the difference between multiracialism and multiculturalism.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Friday, 25 February 2011 7:11:45 PM
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Shal

You are right in your assesment that many white anglos actually do view woman as meat. This is especially the case with those who promote and participate in the porn industry. The link between pornography rape,incest and perversion will never be investigated honestly because to many want to protect their 'right'to watch perversion. Pornography indoctrinates children from a young age leading them to believe that we are just animals unable to control our sex drive in anyway. Added to this the permissive sex education (with no morals) confirms to these kids what they have seen. Although I am no fan of Islam I have been in many workplaces where secularist men are happy to speak about their conquests and show no respect for woman whatsoever. The hypocrisy stars them in the face. Feminist are often happy to defend men behaving immorally as long as those men repeat the équality mantra'. Look at those rushing to the defense of Assange.

I oppose Islamic immigration on the basis of what the Koran teaches and the actions of those who follow the prophet throughout the world. Corey was right. Islam is the problem not Muslims. Do you believe Australia would be better under Sharia law? Do you believe that polygamy should be legal? Do you believe females should be circumcised? If you do, you make a very bad citizen. I am happy for Muslims to come here but not followers of Mohammed. They have an extremely bad track record when immigrating to other countries.
Posted by runner, Friday, 25 February 2011 11:56:06 PM
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Pride is a hardly a matter of concern to this Australian born scribe when reports are published of widespread drug use, booze and appallingly prostitution among juvenile aborigines in Alice Springs.

Is it simply a coincidence Brough emerges from the sanctity of his halo with a finger pointing wave of condemnation?

With storm clouds on the 2007 electoral horizon, My Fellow Australians getting restless and the UN giving the Deputy Sheriff a globally announced hard time on Aboriginal Welfare and Conditions, some unknown hombre named Brough emerged from a dust storm to collaborate with the Posse in the invention of a hastily invented Intervention.

From the moment the Posse packed their saddlebags for the Great Big Leap Forward, experts with decades of practical experience in the matter were calling the Deputy's opportunistic initiative perfunctory, another fraudulent attempt to hoodwink the electorate.

Today, Brough's pride is limited to a censure of Federal Labor.
Posted by Wakatak, Saturday, 26 February 2011 11:08:47 AM
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