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Multiculturalism: at what point does it stop being an inherent good? : Comments

By Jenny Goldie, published 25/2/2011

Can multiculturalism be good when it incorporates cultures which do not mirror our own liberal, humanitarian and egalitarian culture?

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The long-believed 'truth' that "Australia’s long history of successful multiculturism is evidenced by the huge numbers of Greeks and Italians who have settled in Australia" is a lie. The fact of Greeks and Italians successfully integrating is NOT evidence supporting Multiculturism.
The Greeks and Italians were MULTI-ETHNIC and definitely not 'multi-cultured'.
Their culture was fundamentally identical to Australia's culture.
That culture is known as …....wait for it....C.H.R.I.S.T.I.A.N.I.T.Y.
They were ethnically different, but CULTURALLY identical.

Read the full explanation at http://www.ozunited.info/mulcul.htm
Posted by PeterForde, Monday, 28 February 2011 4:29:28 PM
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stevenlmeyer and others, you might well be interested in watching the documentary 'Undercover Mosque'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc7PqjD_S3s
Posted by Clownfish, Monday, 28 February 2011 4:57:41 PM
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grateful,

here they are some-

(1)'Byzantium: The Early Centuries'

(2)'Byzantium: The Apogee'

(3)'Byzantium : Decline and Fall'

all by John Julius Norwich.

These books detail the history of Islamic aggression against the Byzantines.

(4) 'The Armenians' by AE Redgate Chapter 8

(5) 'The Golden Age of Persia' by Richard Frye Chapters 4&5

(6) 'The Dream and The Tomb' by Robert Payne pp 21-30

If you're completely ignorant of Islamic history these might be useful.

(7) 'White Gold' by Giles Milton, this book is a history of attacks by Moslem slavers on Europe. The author estimates that a million Europeans were taken and enslaved by Moslems, these atrocities continued until the early 19th century. This history is not widely known, it certainly should be.

(8)'Crisis of Islam Holy War and Holy Terror' by Bernard Lewis

(9) 'The Arabs' by Eugene Rogan, this is interesting as it provides a pespective on Islamic societies' complete inability to modernize.

(10)'Lords of the Horizons' by Jason Goodwin

(11) 'Lords of the Golden Horn' by Noel Barbour

The last two tell the story of the unspeakable horrors inflicted by the Ottomans on the Eastern Europeans,this also, should be more widely known.

I just know you're going to dismiss these scholarly works because they're not written by Moslems.

and finally a link on the quaint Islamic concept of 'apostasy' by Dr Mark Durie.

http://australianconservative.com/2010/08/mark-durie-on-islamic-apostasy/
Posted by mac, Monday, 28 February 2011 6:33:01 PM
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Mac you were asked for serious scholarship to support the statement that Islam is intolerant of other religions and anti-semitic.

These were your precise words

<<Islamic intolerance of other religions,particularly anti-semitism, also aggression is inherent in the religion,it was spread by violent conquest from the beginning.>>

Instead you provided a list of titles. I wonder whether you have actually read the titles because you have not used them to support your claims.
Posted by grateful, Monday, 28 February 2011 6:53:27 PM
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grateful, like this?

http://www.matthiaskuentzel.de/contents/islamic-antisemitism-and-its-nazi-roots?print=y

Interestingly, when the author was due to address the University of Leeds, in 2007, the University was first forced to alter the lecture title, 'Hitler’s Legacy: Islamic Antisemitism in the Middle East', removing the words 'Hitler' and 'Islamic', and finally to cancel the lecture altogether at the last minute, due to 'security concerns'.
Posted by Clownfish, Monday, 28 February 2011 9:05:05 PM
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grateful,

Nice try,do you really think I get most of my information instantly from the Net,you should understand that knowledge takes time. I've been reading about ME and European history for 40 years, plenty of time to read those books. You really have no idea of how little you know about the subject.

I provided the titles so you could read the books( many of those books are in my personal library)most of them have been written by academic historians. Do you want me to scan and paste entire books? Read even some of the books and then you'll be in a position to discuss the subject with me, otherwise don't waste my time.

You made the challenge,so it's my choice of weapons and I chose books.
Posted by mac, Monday, 28 February 2011 9:21:23 PM
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