Yes it will be a disaster for the world if Israel is allowed to continue its aggression in the Middle East.An attack on Iran will be a disaster for all of us.They have not a single nuke while Israel as in excess of 200,so how is Iran any threat to the Zionists?

Robert Baer ex-CIA was here last Sept 2010 and he is on youtube saying Iran is not a threat to anyone in the Middle East.He said to Ray Hadley that the USA would be forced to retreat due to a broken economy and Israel would probably invade Iran.Iraq was an illegal invasion based on lies.Now we are swallowing more of them.

Attack Iran and the price of oil will kill our fledging economies,then we will know the real meaning of poverty.Perhaps we will have real empathy with the people of Egypt when our economies too,are ground into the dirt.

Robert Baer is certainly a credible commentator on this subject being ex-CIA as is Philip Giraldi who has probably written one of the best pieces on the subject of making a clean break with the evil empire, Israel. It is worth a read and also gives other articles by the same author.
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2011/02/giraldi-how-about-a-clean-break-%E2%80%93-with-israel/

What the new deal in Egypt does allow is a border that be opened as soon as they sort out the arrangements which should put paid for the need for any more Gaza flotillas and the opportunity for the Israeli murderers to kill with impunity as with the last episode and then produce a report stating how free of any illegal acts they were on that occasion. Fortunately, the world well knows the modus operandi of these people.
All these activities have been well chronicled by the world’s free internet press.

There is such a high level of pride in Egypt at the moment and all kinds of alliances working together to ensure that democracy becomes a reality. It is good to see such enthusiasm at all levels and reports are very positive. However, they have to take precautions agianst the planned acts of destabilisation that are probably already being scheduled across the border, Israel being the big loser in this whole development and having absolutely no interest in peace in the middle east. Right at the moment, however they are also heavily engaged in activities in concert with India against Pakistan, the next area of planned destabilisation.

Very soon, outside of the weak US, they will be no country with any interest in a peace treaty with Netanyahu and Egyptians are anxiously awaiting the financial bribery and military threats that are also probably being planned in the White House by the Zionist stooge Obama and his compromised administration. They call it US diplomacy, honed over time in Chile, Nicaragua, Cuba and almost all countries in the world, well documented over the past fifty years.

Summary for Egypt right at this time is very positive indeed.

True democracy in Egypt happens only if the Coptic Christians (the original inhabitants of Egypt) are allowed to build churches and having the freedom of worship.

The Muslims must stop persecuting the non-Muslims minority in Muslim-majority countries.

Islam and democracy are mutually exclusive. Again and again it is proved beyond doubt that Islam leads to chaos, backwardness, mental retardation, rape and murder in the name of religion.

Pakistan (land of the pure and spiritually clean) and Bangladesh are recent examples in which British-India Muslims consciously decided to set up Islamic countries (separate from India) to practice Islam in its truest form. Today, Pakistan and Bangladesh are within the top 20 failed states of the world.

Canadian Muslim professor: 'If you want sharia law, go back to the hellhole country you came from'
http://freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/482-canadian-muslim-professor-if-you-want-sharia-law-go-back-to-the-hellhole-country-you-came-from.html

Philip,

Perhaps not Islam, per se, but the aggressive form of it which seeks to obliterate the difference between 'church' and state, and bring in shari'a law and the caliphate - very similar to what the Catholic Church tried to do in Europe five or six hundred years ago, through the instrumentality of the Inquisition. The Thirty Years' War to a large extent separated church and state, but people in Islamic societies have yet to go through that bourgeois revolution. Perhaps this is what we are witnessing now.

One wonders where the current pseudo-Left would have stood all those years ago in Europe ? Would they have supported the secular, bourgeois forces or the religious reactionaries ? Judging by their weak-kneed and incredibly reactionary approach to the Islamists nowadays, one fears for the answer.

Joe

A friend today said,"Why doesn't the USA give aid in the form of food or education instead of giving it to a corrupt Govt." Well that is it,isn't it.They need to corrupt the Govt in order to keep the people subjugated.40% of Egyptians live on $2 per day.

Our political leaders and their corporate puppeteers are really disgusting.They live in a moral and ethical vacuum and justify keeping billions in abject poverty on the grounds that the poor are an environmental blight on our ecology.Can't give them autonomy since they will oppress mother earth.Give people an education and good lifestyle and like the West,their populations fall dramatically.

No mention of the corporate rape of the environment by the very same people who pollute at will and do not address the real problems of heavy metals and land degradation.

It is all about their power and nothing to do with saving the planet.

Will democracy in Egypt benefit the Palestinians?

NO!

Only democracy in Palestine will help the Palestinians.

When there are protests in Islamist IRAN, the closet Islamists Muslim, Hussein Obama's big mouth is tightly shut.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/02/20112158387191255.html

Philip,

Today, we saw both the weak Obama making another rhetorical comment, his trademark and only function in life and the disgraced Secretary of Hate, Clinton also went through her paces as well, carefully orchestrated of course, as has been their Israeli-inspired 'Iran has nuclear weapons' campaign.
Some difference between the two countries though as well we know. Egypt was (maybe still is) a compliant receiver of US aid in the way of US weaponry, not food, a contributing factor to the current revolution, and Iran is seen by the US as a belligerent nuclear power, another lie, but certainly not a country that jumps to the dictates of the US, thereby making it unique in the world.

Terrorists America cannot tolerate anyone that doesn't toe the line. See Chile, a socialist elected democratic government overthrown by the US, then 16 years of murder and mayhem with Pinochet; Cuba, ousting a US supported hated dictator for revolutionary government, so the big bully places an embargo for 45 years. Word limits restrict further examples, but it is well documented.

What the US cannot tolerate is that lack of subservience from a country that will be the mainstay of the Arab states soon, that has a highly intelligent and well educated population, an enviable cultural history, lot of freedoms but not all they need. That will come. By the way, Iran's way of handling dissention as we have clearly seen is by force, yes, well organised force. But you can only do that do many times. As in the US, The shootings at Kent State University in Ohio, involved the shooting of unarmed college students by members of the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis. Some of the students had only been protesting against the American invasion of Cambodia.

Is the US any better? American history is full of such events. It is the nature of an arrogant beast with a convenient memory.

Israelis are beset with many and terrible problems (Zionism included), but being suicidal is not one of them. Only a fool can believe that increasing the military pressure on israel, such as by adding a southern front (on top of its existing Iranian front with its Lebanese and Gazan extensions), will make it yield, relinquish its security assets and accept its death peacefully, that all Israelis will simply give up their life on a silver-platter just to be nice so that other countries will not have their oil supply and economies distrupted.

With a new frontier in the south, Israel will unite, zionist-or-otherwise. Even the Israeli Left will close ranks with the zionists when survival is at stake.

Be sure that if Israel finds itself on the brink of extinction, its nukes will fly all over the well-deserved region and there will be no more middle-eastern oil for anyone, forever.

Perhaps people like Alan feel that the price for seeing Israel wiped out is worth it, but then he must also forget about his oil-supply, his economy, his environment and other such niceties. It is in doubt in fact whether any humans will survive the resulting nuclear winter.

If Arab countries want to help the Palestinians (do they?) then they must assure Israel that it is secure enough to afford to let go on its Palestinian front. This may come together with civil and moral pressure, but a military pressure would only achieve the opposite.

Whatever the reaction of Israel to a threat, a military counter effort should be not be a consideration.

Israel's reactions to the Palestinians, their commitment to inhumane ethnic cleansing, their apartheid policy and their disdain for any resolutions of the United Nations all with the US veto , have shown without doubt that they are a psychotic people. The world knows it, especially the Americans, who through their weakness , following the dictates of Israel, have let it all go too far. The problems in the Middle East can only be resolved in Washington.

Most forward thinking analysts consider that the apathetic nature of the people of the US will one way wake up to the real facts of 9/11 and will vent their anger on Israel. The US is now disrespected by the rest of the world, and when the people finally awake to how they have been maniipulated, we will see a very angry country. Just like Egypt.
But change must come from the people as the Congress is so corrupt and far too comfortable with its corruption right now.

The most important single item that the people of the world can do is to show Israel that further military plots resulting in wars such as Iraq and Afghanistan, this time using Iran as the target, are not acceptable any more. They engineered the motivation for Iraq, 4,000 US soldiers killed and hundreds of thousands ot Iraqis, the strategically attractive and financially rewarding war, funded by drugs that Afghanistan has become, and are actively involved in the next area, that is Pakistan, another strong Muslim country, this time also using the corruptibility that is India to assist as a willing partner. The Indian RAW, another Mossad, another CIA, covert actions a speciality. Of course, behind it all is the money and resources of the ever-willing CIA, just another exercise like Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, all of South America, Cuba and on it goes.

The terrorist brigades. All legal, government owned , funded and controlled, heroes in their own countries..

The world is tiring of such people.

IRAN is an example that democracy and Islam (Muslim-majority) are not compatible. The Muslim-majority will surely (sooner or later) bring in shariah law, kill off the non-Muslim minorities. This fact has been documented again and again.

An Islamic country can only have two choices

(i) Have an autocratic regime, like when IRAQ was under Saddam Hussein or Egypt under Mubarak. The autocratic leaders bring stability because the alternative is violence and genocide of the non-Muslim minorities like in Sudan, Pakistan, Somalia.

(ii) Democracy for only one term. Because when the Muslim-majority comes to power it will start to implement shariah law like in Turkey (e.g. making it impossible to sell pork http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aC4.f2m9HcDg&refer=news ) IRAN is more honest than TURKEY because IRAN openly states that it is an Islamic Republic whereas TURKEY behaves more like HUSSEIN OBAMA the closet Islamist.

The lesser of the two evils is (i).

The Palestinian/Israeli conflict has become a Islamic/non-Islamic conflict because the Islamists have killed off the remaining Palestinian non-Muslims or they have migrated to other countries.

Evidential review of Islam and/or Islamic countries show that they are linked to poverty, corruption, failed state, rape, murder, illiteracy, etc.

World migration pattern is almost always of Muslims leaving Islamic countries trying to get into the non-Muslim countries e.g. the West. Very seldom the other way round.

The only hope for Muslims is not democracy but to realise that they have been drinking from a poisonous source, THE HATE MANUAL. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Quran-Hate.htm

The rhetoric and everyone's assumptions are that the nukes are designed for defence against Israel. There is another far more likely scenario.

Considering that Israel has the most sophisticated anti missile technology that could stop a fair proportion of Iran's missiles, and whose retaliations are renowned for being vastly out of proportion, there is no scenario where Iran could contemplate using nukes against Israel without facing annihilation.

However, none of its supposed Muslim neighbours have the ability to defend or counter attack against such a strike. Having fought and largely lost a bloody decade long expansionist war against Iraq, and still harbouring those expansionary ambitions, Nukes give Iran a big stick that it can use for future aggressive negotiations with any of its 7 odd neighbours.

"Considering that Israel has the most sophisticated anti missile technology that could stop a fair proportion of Iran's missiles, and whose retaliations are renowned for being vastly out of proportion, there is no scenario where Iran could contemplate using nukes against Israel without facing annihilation."

1. The danger for Israel is not so much from the air: Iran could simply smuggle a nuclear bomb by sea in a commercial container, to be activated by GPS once it arrives at an Israeli port.

2. Ahmadenijad's sect does not worry about annihilation because they believe that the hidden-Imam is about to arrive any moment now and revive the dead anyway.

Yet Iran's big stick is against anyone who cooperates with Israel or attempts to make peace with it (including the Palestinians), or in fact against anyone that opposes their expansion in any other way. Europe is easily within its missile-range, but Australia is also not exempt from the above naval attacks.

Kamal Nawash

" As to the Muslim Brotherhood, one of the main reasons why a significant number of people in the Middle East seek Islamic based fundamentalist governments is because of the expectation that such governments would eliminate corruption, produce stronger economies, reduced unemployment and create higher standards of living. Obviously, Islamic states, as with any state based on religion, are much less likely to produce peace and prosperity.

However, by the time supporters of religious states discover that such states produce failure; it is usually too late to do anything about their governments. Religious governments usually equate opposition to their rule with opposition to God, which is a strong deterrent to protesters. Iran is an example."

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=659:egypt-israel-and-the-muslim-brotherhood&catid=133:kamal-nawash&Itemid=58

Clearly, Shadow Minister, Iran doesn't have any nuclear warheads as opposed to Israel with 250+.

Even the US warmongers know that, as does the UN, US intelligence, everyone except including Israel and the US administration but who keep thumping the war drums because it suits their plans for budget allocations for military spending, now that poor old al Qaeda has passed its prime as a scary monster.

They still use it occasionally just to keep it current. After all, they have spent so much on the campaign.

Reminds me of the old Australian adage back in the days of Menzies and Co., of "reds under the beds". That worked as well. Won him an election, in fact.

Totally wasted in Australia though during the football season.

As a final comment on the Egyptian crisis, because without a clear leader and any formal; organisation for the people, that is what is has now become, let me quote from US propaganda from USAID when describing how the US 'graft' money paid to Mubarak was spent in Egypt.
It is advisable to be seated when reading this....

"For over three decades, the United States has worked to improve the quality of life of all Egyptians through programs supporting economic development and regional stability. USAID assistance has totaled $28.6 billion since 1975. Current programs focus on economic growth; education; healthier, planned families; and democracy and governance.” – USAID website

There, you see. The Nazi Goebbels with his theories on controlling the minds of the people has been well understood by the US spin writers. USAID, US Government. It's all the same.

The fact that it has been estimated that Mubarak left his office with an estimated fortune of up to $70 billion puts paid forever to the idea that he had any interest in the Egyptian people, working as they do for an average of just $2 dollars a day.

Credibility for the US? Gone forever.