Delilah <" Some things are a consequence of a fallen world."
What 'things' Delilah?

So the millions of starving people in the world would not be in their 'predicament' if they all found the 'true god' and begged forgiveness?
We would need one hell of a miracle to stop world poverty, that's for sure!

I am assuming you gave up all your worldly goods for the poor people?
Christians do not have a monopoly on goodness Delilah.

Hi Suzeonline
I hope you had a blessed CHRISTmas. I pray this coming year will bring you a peace that passes all understanding.
Our bodies getting older and dying for one, Sickness of every kind, situations that bogle the mind of us mere mortals ( e.g. when a beautiful child of 17 who seeks to serve God and her fellow Man- this is a real person- develops incurable brain Cancer. ) and the susceptibility of our hearts and minds to be tricked into turning away from communing with God, are but a few of the things that are a consequence of the Fallen world.
We are only in control of, and are responsible for, our response to the situations that confront us (Poverty and starvation in other countries.) I am convinced that as we grow in your relationship with our saviour God, He enables us to deal with the situation we are in. Just believing in him is not a cure-all for the problems in the world or in an individual’s life. He is however able to assist us in gaining new perspective in our response to that which is within us and in the circumstances in the world we live in.
Just because one claims to be a Christian does not make them perfect, far from it. We all are, on this Journey of life in search of the relationship we lost with our Creator God.
You are correct in saying “Christians do not have a monopoly on goodness Delilah. “
What is more important (and this is for all of us religious, nonreligious, Christian and nonChristian) is the motivation for why we do what we do, be it good or bad In many cases we can do good things for all the wrong reasons. It may look good from the outside but it is damaging us on the inside
From living in poverty stricken countries I know that people in there need have a greater faith and trust in God than we do in the self-sufficient west.
Have a safe and blessed New Year with your loved ones.

Delilah:”From living in poverty stricken countries I know that people in there need have a greater faith and trust in God than we do in the self-sufficient west.”

For sure… when you have nothing you might as well believe in something as some weird form of cheap comfort/entertainment.

What is the point in having a God that is blamed for nothing and yet celebrated for everything? Everything is the Will of God until it is a bad thing then it is Mans Will. Too easy, but anyways….

I thought mostly this thread was about a song so I’m gonna add one that a friend sent me yesterday and it gave me immense joy (if you don’t like the odd naughty word don’t click on it).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o

Jewely writes

'For sure… when you have nothing you might as well believe in something as some weird form of cheap comfort/entertainment. '

And for sure when you have everything you might as well deny the God who gave it to you and be self righteousness enough to think you have earned or deserve it.

Jewely:
<What is the point in having a God that is blamed for nothing and yet celebrated for everything? Everything is the Will of God until it is a bad thing then it is Mans Will. Too easy, but anyways….>

Quote of the month for mine :-)
And I much prefer your xmas carol!

Runner:”And for sure when you have everything you might as well deny the God who gave it to you and be self righteousness enough to think you have earned or deserve it.”

Aw now Runner... which God have you personally decided gave me anything?

It’s a good song eh Squeers, cracked me up.

Songs are important – national anthems seem to mean a lot to some (NZ changed its for the better not long ago) countries and some church music is amazing. We worship our good singers but I think them being famous and making money is a more modern concept? I’m very much addicted to anything by Leonard Cohen.

There is one song that is very much Christian that I think is beautiful so I’ll put it here for Runner who I hope will like it.

http://www.andiesisle.com/Calling_All_Angels.html