The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Silent Night – a miracle in the making > Comments

Silent Night – a miracle in the making : Comments

By Warwick Marsh, published 24/12/2010

One song more than any other embodies the qualities of Christmas and has been there to prove it.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. All
Ausjude writes, “Ah but the Bible has more historical evidence to back it than most historical occurences (sic) that are taught as fact in schools! Even Historians don't dispute the Gospel story is true but only some believe in its message for them.”

In the reference cited by Jon-J, Wikipedia writes, “Those who argue that Jesus existed suggest that he was born a Jew between 7 BCE and 7 CE (according to the gospel of Matthew, he was born during the reign of Herod the Great, who died in March in the year 4 BCE while the Gospel of Luke has him born during the Census of Quirinius which occured [sic] 6-7 CE); and that he died around 30 CE, during the administration of Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor of Iudaea province. Biblical scholar L. Michael White, not himself a Jesus-myth theorist, writes that, so far as we know, Jesus did not write anything, nor did anyone who had personal knowledge of him. There is no archeological evidence of his existence. There are no contemporaneous accounts of his life or death: no eyewitness accounts, or any other kind of first-hand record. All the accounts of Jesus come from decades or centuries later; the gospels themselves all come from later times, though they may contain earlier sources or oral traditions. White writes that the earliest writings that survive are the letters of Paul of Tarsus, written 20–30 years after the dates given for Jesus's death. Paul was not a companion of Jesus; nor does he ever claim to have seen Jesus before his death.”

Ausjude, can you stand by what you asserted?
Posted by GlenC, Tuesday, 28 December 2010 6:57:33 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Folks
Regardless of how much we each resist ( are blinded to) the truth, only the truth can set you free. Each of us is on the journey to find the truth. As each of the scales is peeled of our eyes the truth remains patiently to be found. In fact the truth is the one who lovingly peels away the scales to reveal Himself to each one of us.

I encourage each one of us to knock, seek and ask for the truth to rescue us from our predicament.

Hang on ...He already has... Jesus came as a baby and paid the ultimate sacrifice. Now the choice, as it always has been, is ours.

Do we accept Jesus the CHRIST or do we reject Him. He will continue to wait, for a time, for us to turn back to Him.

What are we going to do?
Posted by Delilah, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 12:18:16 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Delilah,
what a crock of conceited delusion!
Never mind the devoutly-spoiled sing-songy westerners! what is "the CHRIST" doing for those in genuine need; you know, those starving to death in their millions, as opposed to the mere wallowing?
The truth is there is no "truth"!
But if a placebo (including tacky Christmas songs) works for you lot, and your self-inflationary issues, enjoy!
Posted by Squeers, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 2:34:38 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Dear Squeers
Firstly let me wish you a Blessed Christmas. May there be peace in your heart and mind.
I have come to realise that the delusion we have is that question -what “ The Christ” is doing for “those starving to death in their millions”?. We rather should be asking ourselves what we are doing for “those starving to death in their millions”. That is what Jesus asks of us... that out of gratitude for what he has done for us in eternity, we do the same for other in this short temporal life.
But we are deluded, by the “enemy of Truth” in our selfishness, self centeredness and self-righteousness to see the truth of Christ’s “Amazing Grace” in our own life.
In fact more of the helping of fellow man is done by Christian and other religious institutions. I am not saying that non religious don’t do good things. I am saying Christ inspired institutions, among others, have been at the forefront of “Charity” in the west and in the developing world.
Some things are a consequence of a fallen world.
In some cases we(humanity, nations, societies, communities and individuals) are His Instruments, if we do not follow His will we cannot blame Him for the consequences of our actions or lack thereof.

Delilah
Posted by Delilah, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 3:08:31 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Well good for you, Delilah. You appear to be new and I wouldn't want to discourage you. But the things you say, same ol' same ol', give me no cause for optimism for this world.
Merry Xmas, happy new year, God's grace and all that..
Posted by Squeers, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 5:52:52 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Squeers:

I think that you're simply stirring my friend. I don't believe that someone with your charm, and wit and warm-heartedness could not be affected by certain songs, poems, et cetera. Of course it is all very subjective (like art), but then I'm sure you know that - and I'm sure that you don't really begrudge others in feeling all warm and fuzzy (at least this once a year). Make Merry! (in your own way of-course,
and you can forgo the sugar and add the spice instead, if that's more to your taste). ;-)
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 6:18:03 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy