“..and sadly more mothers kill their children than biological fathers…”

You get a chocolate fish Warwick for slipping that one in while your battle for love rages on.

Vanna:“So its not about the children after all..”

None of it is Vanna.

Vanna:”Family Law has been cloaked in secrecy, leading to too few men in particular not knowing anything about it.”

Ignorance of the law is genderless.

Anti:“In regards to Child Support, I have previously proposed a levy to be payable by all taxpayers. The tiny sum of $5 per week per taxpayer would raise enough money to cover all the transfers between parents that the CSA claims and it could be easily administred by the ATO and centrelink, removing the $500 million black hole that is the CSA.”

Sorry honey, my ex failed to pay the last 16k of his child support but I refuse to make my hard working neighbor pay our children. Such is life.

“I suspect that you simply have no concept whatever of personal obligations, merely of entitlements. That's quite sad, but is no reason to change a law.”

Isn’t that what you just wanted?

James:”Like I said that for custodial mothers... is more about power and control, and children are a mere tool used by single mothers groups.”

Mums only want their kids in their care to have power and control over males?

James:”The continually negative potrayal of men, by these women and the propaganda, serves to continually alienate. Alienation is a bullying tactic.”

I don’t want this happening to my boys; I don’t want them receiving this message by society of what they are supposed to be like. But I equally do not want you going near my daughters with these messages.

R0bert:” I'm having just a bit of trouble imagining that as a regular part of court life. Magistrates, judges etc aren't generally noted for their tolerance of being screamed at in court.”

Weird things happen in court R0bert – I was told by a judge that I had to take responsibility for who my ex was. Nice concept but sorry, I refuse.

Jewely:"Ignorance of the law is genderless."

It may be, but for a bloke turning up at Family court there is almost no support unless he has lots of money. On the other habd there are court officers and volunteers specifically tasked with assisting women to obtain free advice.

Jewely:"I refuse to make my hard working neighbor pay our children. Such is life."

your hard-working neighbour is already paying. The responses from women to this are very revealing and amount to "I want the bastard to pay, so there". they don;t have anything to do with the children at all. You're quite sick.

Jewely:"Isn’t that what you just wanted?"

No, i want the law changed so that the children who have parents like you, who prioritie getting at their ex, still get the basics. People like me pay to support our children anyway and people like my ex are going to try to milk the system anyway. Instead of allowing the ex from hell to bugger the other person's life, I've suggested a way of separating them.

Of course, I don't have a handy income from the products of such conflicts...

Jewely,
Occasionally a child support agency somewhere in the world releases figures that show the number of women who are supposed to be paying child support that actually do pay child support.

Normally about 10% to 30% of women who are required to pay child support actually do pay child support, while about 50% to 80% of men required to pay child support actually do pay child support.

These figures are never mentioned by feminists, and I have never known a feminist to say that mothers are paying too little child support.

They seem to believe that the father only has to pay child support.

The children have to be removed from the father and the father has to pay money to the mother is the number one policy.

<. But I equally do not want you going near my daughters with these messages>

Nasty! Jewely

<I don’t want this happening to my boys>

But then how do we solve this paradox?

I am very interested to read DOTA's account of its activities. This group has been very influential and has had an instrumental role in promoting the idea of the absolute necessity for the equal division and distribution of children between their parents. How does a group persuade law-makers to legislate for specific proportionate child division and distribution? This is no small achievement. In fact one could argue that never has one group done so much to produce a system to control and determine the actions of separated parents. Imprisonments of parents under the Family Law Act are up and so are child abduction rates, fines, community orders, parenting program orders - the list goes on. This group has achieved so much that everyone should carefully study what it reveals, who discloses what activities. What were the spheres of influence? How did they operate? Who was responsible for what? People need to know.

mog, DOTA is a community radio program, set-up and run by a few volunteers using their own money and the donations of supporters. That is where it begins and ends.

On the other hand, the OSW has funded dozens of Mother's Rights and other misogynist women's groups to the tune of millions of dollars, much of which has been spent "lobbying" politicians and others.

Nice of you to point out the contrast, thanks.

You're quite right to call the achievements of DOTA impressive.

What's also impressive is the singular failure of such taxpayer-funded Mother's Rights groups to prove their case that fathers are inherently more dangerous.