So much introspection can't be healthy for you, chaz.

You should be down at the beach being confronted by the objectification of women in bikinis or something equally serious by now, surely?

Septic Ant – I guess that bit about sociopaths touched a nerve again. Have fun playing with your new Xmas toys in your shed. But beware of all those bikini-clad, hairy-legged RadFems who are out to get you.
JamesH – so you support Gardner’s predilections for paedophilia then as apparently do several Family Court Judges by the evidence of their decision-making, and how PAS can be used by paedophiles and child sex abusers to secure access to children, as has occurred in several cases in Australian Courts. “Well the children (two small girls) can lock their bedroom door on a night to protect themselves from him”, as suggested by one learned Family Court Judge – DUH!.
I would suggest that there is far more evidence available of Self-Alienation Parental Syndrome. Of parents who abuse their children physically, emotionally, mentally, and sexually or are indifferent to their needs and have no interest in their children’s needs, until of course they are required to meet their financial responsibilities towards them or they want to cause pain and suffering to their former partners for rejecting them. But of course then they claim that their former partners have `alienated’ the child against them, or `coached’ or indoctrinated’ the child – well they would, wouldn’t they, when they cannot take responsibility for their own actions.
In fact Self-Alienation Parental Syndrome is commonly observable in any supermarket, shopping mall, and street any day of the week yet doesn’t seem to have permeated into Family Courts .
Death threats and other intimidatory tactics to their opponents are of course a commonly used used by supporters of Father’s Rights groups, as is widely known by events in the past when lawyers and Judges were threatened and in recent times when advocates for children and mothers and journalists have been similarly threatened for daring to support mothers who have fled interstate or abroad with their children to try to protect them from violence and abuse which Family Courts have inadquately investigated.

I do not believe parental alienation works – commonly exists. That kind of manipulation of a child would have to be done by a professional. I don’t give the average women going through a separation that much credit for focus.

I do see it is a powerful tool that could be used and is being used in court. But it will broaden to the point of any couple separating will be seen to be doing it consciously or not.

It sounds good, it seems believable to begin with and “alienation” sounds like a good word to use in a custody dispute.

I can see why male rights and females rights supporters would swoop on it and want to claim it for their own use.

All I can say over and over is that this is not how children process information, turning a child against another parent is near impossible. PAS ignores the children and is all about alienating court against a parent.

No idea why it is being thrown in with the Maternal Gatekeeping thing. That is another little word weapon (awesome medieval sound to it) that once a target is chosen it could be directed at any woman to twist any circumstances, intentions or situations.

The opposite side of the Maternal Gatekeeping coin is Paternal Subjection? If we have a real Gatekeeping and a real male reduced to servitude in the home then aren’t we looking at the same situation that happens in the home where male domestic violence is exhibited? We admit some women manipulate the man into being violent and that some women manipulate the men into being dominated.

But when do we look up close at the men? It seems you got nasty ones and wimpy ones and women are to blame for all of them?

It all reminds me of what police and doctors would use to force someone into a psyche ward to get them out of the way. These new phrase wont help families sort problems but create new ones.

<JamesH – so you support Gardner’s predilections for paedophilia then as apparently do several Family Court Judges by the evidence of their decision-making, and how PAS can be used by paedophiles and child sex Posted by ChazP, Sunday, 26 December 2010 8:20:42 AM>

ChapZ you are a extremely nasty person, to make such a claim.

I like the American Psychological do not have a firm position as to whether Parental Alienation exists, but with posts like yours, I tend to lean more to the fact that it does exist.

I would like to see more research on the subject and one untapped group would be adults who were children when their parents separated. It would be interesting to see what their attitudes are towards their parents are now and what they were in the past.

Cotter, other strategies for your daughter to strengthen herself in this temporary situation [she is half way there already] are the following;

. If your daughter is not working, a suggestion is for her to take up some part time or full time work demonstrating to Adam's father that she is getting on with her life and taking charge of it.
. Encourage your daughter to take up a self defence course, a martial arts course or yoga for self discipline, peace and strength. Ditto for your grandson regarding a martial arts course. Strengthens the mind, body and soul. A driver training course for assertiveness is excellent for confidence on the road also.
. Eliminating fear, turning each situation around by herself, [turning the tables] one step at a time, is successfully achieved, by empowering herself one step at a time via various activities.
. Standing up to a bully head on [ie on her own vehicle to vehicle] as one example, will give your daughter strength and sustainability to turn her back permanently on the previous abuse and her lifestyle to change her life positively to enjoy a future.
. Joining a gym, swimming or bike riding for the physical side is exremely important to benefit her mind also. Stick to the bike paths or around lakes or public places initially, staying off roads as much as possible.
. Lastly, a power of positive thinking course or seminars are worth attending in addition to some books. Am not referring to religious books, just some positive self help books [many women turned their lives, and therefore, their childrens lives around while reading positive material] over the years. It further strengthens them as individuals regardless of gender.

Shake off the fear, stake an affirmative claim for life and its enjoyment, the rest will follow and your daughter's life will change positively, followed by positive changes in Adam's life.

"These terms group the psychopath and sociopath into a single personality disorder that can be tested and measured".

WHO should not have grouped the different diseases into the ICD10 as dissocial personality disorder for a number of validated reasons ChazP, the primary being that if they were related, lived and experienced life with any of their case studies for many years, the Psychologists would know the differences and not waste time, resources and taxpayer funds to later test and measure people with these completely different diseases.

Completely inaccurate forms of diagnosis and treatment, confusing both diseases, allowing for mistakes in misdiagnosing and maltreating patients tested and measured under the one label.

WHO knows that these mental conditions do not produce black and white symptoms and that symptoms vary from individual to individual in the same way that schizophrenia differs from Bi-Polar.

All too easy lumping and labelling people under a nice, little, tidy mental illness is it not?