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Can Australia afford not to be reconciled? : Comments

By Patrick Dodson, published 3/12/2010

Patrick Dodson's reflections on the way forward for indigenous Australians

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@Joe
In your opinion we're Racists.
You're only calling us Racists because we're White.
People in India are mostly "coffee coloured" but nobody's saying they need to assimilate to change the colour of their skin.
People in Indonesia are mostly "coffee coloured" but nobody's saying they need to change the colour of their skin.

White people are the only ones being targeted in this way, if they weren't being targeted and their homelands, and only their homelands being flooded with "coffee coloured" people there would be no possibility of them being anything other than White now and forever.
The only way that this "inevitable coffee coloured future" can occur is if the people at the top of the hierarchy in White countries create the conditions for Genocide to occur.
Limiting birthrates is genocide, there is no stipulation as to which methods fit the criteria of the U.N convention.
The definition of Genocide is intentionally broad, ANYTHING, any speech, law or physical act that contributes to lowering birthrates is Genocide.
If housing prices are causing White people to delay starting a family or to have less children that's a condition contributing to White genocide.
If media images promote Black boyfriends for for White girls and Asian girlfriends for White boys that's a condition contributing to White Genocide.
If immigration causes apprehension and mental distress to White people in White countries that's a condition contributing to White genocide.
There is ZERO tolerance for any attitude, speech,joke, song, skit, cartoon, pamphlet, film or graffiti that even so much as implies support for genocide of other races.

Promoting genocide is clearly "Beyond the pale", leftists and respectable conservatives agree that it can't be covered by "free speech" in this country.
I keep pointing out the obvious to you,that you are identifiable to anyone who, at some point in the future might decide to make a court case out of White genocide.
So why do you continue to joke and crack wise on the subject of White genocide?
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 10 December 2010 9:21:00 PM
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Hmmm. A discussion about Reconciliation and the
pros and cons of recognising Indigenous people
in the Australian Constitution has turned into
a rant about the ludicrous notion of "White genocide".

How did that happen?
Posted by talisman, Friday, 10 December 2010 9:40:26 PM
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[Deleted for attempting to hijack the thread.]
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 11 December 2010 6:11:50 AM
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In retrospect, I can see where this nonsense about
"White genocide" might be applicable in Australia, at
least in the minds of White supremacists. In stretching
the UN definition of genocide beyond any sensible meaning,
its advocates are extending and reversing the process
by which Aboriginal activists made rather hyperbolic
claims about their own treatment, such as claiming that
the "Stolen Generations" constituted genocidal policy
by various State governments in Australia.

However, while there was undoubtedly a prevalent view among
settler Australians that the Aboriginal "race" was dying out
(which should be hurried along), it's hard to sustain an
argument that this was ever official policy. I seem to
recall that arguments that Aboriginal genocide had been
sanctioned and attempted in our colonial past have fallen
flat in recent decades due to lack of evidence.

It would be even harder to sustain an argument that anything
like "White genocide" has ever been attempted here. After
my last comment, I was intrigued enough at the seeming
stupidity of the notion to do a Google search, which was
an educational exercise.

Apart from references to descendants of former colonists
in South Africa and Zimbabwe where the term might arguably
be applied, and to a peculiar historical usage by Western
Armenians, googling the term "White genocide" generally leads
to some of the more revolting White supremacist websites
that I've encountered.

[TBC]
Posted by talisman, Saturday, 11 December 2010 8:28:04 AM
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[CONT]

While I felt like washing my hands after visiting some
of these deranged websites, I noticed a curious repetition
around them of the verbatim text that Jay of Melbourne has
posted above, and which I now notice that s/he posts regularly
in various discussions at this site. Its repetition is
appropriate, since it's apparently a White supremacist "mantra"
(they even call it that) designed to be spread around the Internet.

As far as I can tell it was first published by a racist
loon named Bob Whitaker, and has been taken up enthusiastically
by any number of White supremacist groups internationally
as a device with which to spam discussions such as this.

http://www.whitakeronline.org/blog/the-white-mantra/

Given that this "White genocide" rubbish is so very obviously
viral racist spam, I'm going to ignore any reference to it
in future. I recommend that others do the same, because
engaging with it just gives it oxygen. How insidious.
Posted by talisman, Saturday, 11 December 2010 8:31:38 AM
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'Trickle = flood'

'Inter-marriage = limiting births = genocide'

'Inter-marriage = lowering birth-rates = genocide'

'Promoting reconciliation and interaction = 'a condition contributing to White genocide' '

"Oh, brave new world ! That has such people in 't!"

Well, all I know, Jay, is that there can never be reconciliation without interaction, or, Hazza [or Michael Mansell], reconciliation through segregation: in a free and open society, people mix with whomever they wish, people are attracted to each other willy-nilly, people marry and/or have kids, and grandkids. Our grandkids :)

So you can do your Canute thing, you're free to keep trying, to keep the world from turning.

But it still moves :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Saturday, 11 December 2010 8:32:07 AM
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