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Climate change hits the west : Comments

By Peter McMahon, published 2/12/2010

In WA temperatures soar, rains fail, climate change is palpable, yet the government pumps out more CO2.

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"The ad was just the latest indication that WA is at last waking up to its perilous situation as climate change kicks in."

ah ha, so previously, the climate didn't change? Hysterical exaggeration, how unusual! The climate is only changing now, it's "kicking in!" Doom!

Now for some Climate Astrology "We can’t say for sure that the storm was caused by climate change, but the increasingly weird weather WA is experiencing fits the general predictions by climate scientists."

So Climate Change, the new change that is, not the type that has been going on forever, is now responsible for storms, no storms, heat, cold, hurricanes in the US (oh wait, no hurricane landfall for 3 years ..huh?)

In fact Climate Scientists predict every form of weather, mass extinctions, increased growth, warmer and cooler oceans, more and less antarctic ice, you name it and you can find a climate prediction that fits, just like astrology.

That's probably why more and more people just turn off when climate change is mentioned, there appears to be less science and more hysteria daily.

The bottom line, is we have to adapt and stop this silly nonsense of trying to "stop climate change", that's like trying to stop tectonic plate movement, it's a folly and no one really believes it - what we do believe is that eco types want to redistribute wealth, and stop affluence, no thanks.
Posted by Amicus, Thursday, 2 December 2010 9:19:08 AM
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Summer must be coming. I feel for the pro-climate change lobby as they have been copping some stick but this summer they are going to get some help from the media.

Due to the media focus on conflict, impact and stories that are unusual, every time there's a heat wave, tennis ball sized hail stones, floods, scorpions rising from the earth - it's climate change.

Now one of the problems with the media is that they don't actually investigate the science (pro or con). They report the hysteria. This doesn't serve either side of the debate.

This summer the high temperatures and the fact that some older people and babies will die, will be put down to climate change - not any other factors such as not drinking enough water or not turning the air con on - but climate change.

I think even the climate changers think that's odd.
Posted by Cheryl, Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:17:14 AM
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Here we go. The alarmist can't talk about Europe or Sydney or Melbourne. Any statistics yet on how many people are dying in Britain due to the earliest and coldest start to winter ever in some parts? How desperate they are to find somewhere in the world that has had a dry spell. Even Adelaide's dams are in a healthy condition. Talk about selective manipulation of facts. And to call this science!
Posted by runner, Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:23:18 AM
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< The Water Corporation pointed out that this situation is absolutely dire, “far worse than anything (it) could have predicted in its 50-year ‘Water Forever’ plan”. >

In its ads the Water Corp pointed out the < need for householders to cut water use >, but has it even remotely suggested that the rate of population growth needs to be wound back?

Apparently not. It is apparently appropriate for all users to further and further reduce their usage, while the nutcase of a government continues to emplace ever-more users into water-stressed areas!

Talk about utter madness!!

There may or may not be a connection between the WA water crisis and climate change, but there sure as hell is a powerful connection between the water issue and the insanity of rapid continuous rapid growth.

THAT is surely the primary factor, which needs to be addressed with great urgency.

< There are no signs that the Barnett Government has much on their minds other than maximizing the minerals and energy boom. >

Yep.

Good article Peter.
Posted by Ludwig, Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:42:40 AM
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Following the criteria advanced by Peter McMahon we have a new definition of climate change (aka anthropogenic global warming) - namely any extreme weather event occurring in the Perth region.
Forget the rest of the world, a cold snap in Northern Europe is but a weather anomaly and therefore of no consequence. Professor Carter and others have pointed out that climate, like plate tectonics is always in a state of flux. Yes, humans do modify climate to a certain extent, for instance the heat islands effect. In theory a yellow corn field should absorb less heat then a dark green bush leading to local cooling.
All this is a long way from proving that the industrial emission of carbon dioxide is the principal driver of the global climate. Of course radiative effects from atmospheric gases are real, but this does not imply that that they are sole or main climate forcing factor.
In any case heat is distributed on earth by convective forces in the atmosphere and in the oceans which as far as I am aware are not satisfactorily factored into climate models. Lastly remember that the earth (especial the oceans) have a large heat capacity which must buffer any short term variations in the energy balance between the earth and outer space
Posted by anti-green, Thursday, 2 December 2010 10:59:01 AM
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"We can’t say for sure that the storm was caused by climate change"
-Peter McMahon

So don't.
Posted by Riz, Thursday, 2 December 2010 11:07:16 AM
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