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Women should be free to wear the burqa : Comments

By Pip Hinman, published 29/11/2010

Wearing the burqa raises complicated questions of human rights.

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<<I reject the anglo-saxon so called values of the catholic church that physically and/or sexually abused kids at school, in their homes and in other places where they should've been safe.>>

These weren't the values of "anglo-saxons" or the catholic church.
81% percent of the victims were boys.
This makes it, by definition, homosexual child abuse.

<<Even now as we speak the catholic church is still acting in a manner of at best denial, and at worst, castigating the abused and destroying their lives, while they insist on protecting the perpetrators.>>

The catholic church is working hard to exclude homosexual priests from its ranks.
Given their evident relentlessness, this will be no easy task.
Posted by Proxy, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 8:46:04 PM
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@Proxy-You have the stats to back that up?My sister was abused by a priest;there were lots of girls who were victims-read last weekend's SMH-buy,'Hell on the way to Heaven' about 2 little girls/sisters who were abused;then go to The 7.30Report of several months ago re twin sisters who are now women, but were also little girls. If you have the stats, then post them, otherwise it's only conjecture? The catholic church is not trying to overcome the problem, they're just frantic about the 'bad press'? The present pope, had the responsibility for 25 yrs, to 'deal' with the perpetrators-we all know that they were moved around the country or sent overseas, and moved around that country. They're not serious about child sexual abuse-only the negative responses to it?
Some priests may have been homosexual, some(many) were not.Again, if you have the proof,provide the links, otherwise, don't make crazy speculations and don't try to defend them-they're indefensible!
Posted by Liz45, Tuesday, 30 November 2010 11:33:34 PM
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Liz,

-stats and figures-

I don’t think the aborigines have been here for anything like 40000 years. Here’s my argument from mathematics.

Let’s start with a group of 10 aboriginal people who may have immigrated across the Timor Sea. They multiply at a rate that increases their population by 0.5% per year (that’s not many).

After 400 years, expediential growth would give the group an expected population of 73
After 1000 years, would give them an expected population of 1465
After 2500 years, would give them an expected population of 2.6 million
After 4000 years, would give them an expected population of 4.6 billion
After 10000 years, would give them an expected population of over 45773 billion billion.

This is just one overly simple population model. But the point to emphasise is that people MULTIPLY very quickly. We are programmed to do so. How quickly did it take China to get from a few million to where they are now? Not very long.

40000 years and my calculator blows a fuse. 200000 years is utterly ridiculous. A few thousand years of aboriginal habitation on this continent prior to European arrival is reasonable. These other figures are not.

What has this to do with Burqas? Nothing (it wasn’t me who brought this up), but its an opportunity to reveal how otherwise intelligent people sometimes don’t stop to think.

And as for the nuns and priests wearing funny clothes? That’s true, but at least we could see their faces, which is kind of the sticking point in the question at hand.
Posted by Dan S de Merengue, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 12:32:25 AM
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Dan growth rates don't always work like that especially in a relatively low technology state. If you get more people than the land can support death rates will increase. During good times (or with technology/outside support etc) groups may exceed the normal carry capacity of the land but that has a way of going terribly wrong eventually.

It's fairly safe to assume that Aboriginal populations fluctuated around the ability of the land to feed them.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 7:43:57 AM
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Dan S de Merengue:"expediential "

That would be the sort of thing that creationists rely on, surely?
Back on topic, I think the burqa should be encouraged. It's the obvious solution to the problem so clearly stated in this link...

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/business/men-retrained-to-see-breasts-as-bad-things-201011303301/
Posted by Antiseptic, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 7:57:20 AM
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do some research about the ango-saxon repugnant human beings who are still being protected!

You really do hate white, Judaeo-Christian culture, don't you! You also seem to think the Catholic Church is the major Christian denomination here, sorry, but Proddies (my lot) outnumber Catholics by a decent margin. Not that I care. While child abuse is completely deplorable, and it's right that the Catholic church be held accountable for wrongs against innocents, and get rid of scum priests (there are a lot of good ones though, and abolishing celibacy would help the sexual frustration bit) it's my view that every organised religion (and many cults) put unscrupulous people in positions of power they don't deserve, and that includes Muslim madrassas.
Posted by viking13, Wednesday, 1 December 2010 8:44:29 AM
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