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Women should be free to wear the burqa : Comments

By Pip Hinman, published 29/11/2010

Wearing the burqa raises complicated questions of human rights.

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Liz,

"All men - never remain silent about violence towards women! Right Liz - got that guys! You heard it from Liz. I know from your previous cracker rants, that you would be predictable, but you were so tempting. As usual, the fundy feminists let their Muslim sisters down and just become useful cranks. You sound like you'd invite trouble.

Health care - another diversion. Did you know that the Muslims in France wanted to try and change the French health system and segregate the sexes for treatment? They've already segregated toilets at La Trobe University here. What more are they going to want? Why does a 4% minority in our population get this special treatment? Are you all for living in parallel societies? Is that it?

It is time to take your rose coloured glasses off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJE2jOZYzwI
Posted by Constance, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 9:33:08 PM
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Pericles,

So would you say the same government political expediency was used for Syria’s cause of a burqa/niqab ban? A majority Muslim country with a strong secular state - staunchly secular like France. France is not England. And where are the European terrorist hubs based? – England (which you have previously denied). Where was it the Swedish citizen bomber was inspired? Not Sweden, was it? The French aren’t as careless (and numb) and fawning as the polies in the UK. Don’t you think Syria and even Turkey (banning head scarfs in public institutions) would have a better understanding of the niqab symbolism than yourself? Syria has legitimate concerns as this unnatural wear is on the increase everywhere and seems to be because of nationals returning from spending time in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States. And what do they export apart from oil? You really are out of touch with the anxieties of the majority and portray yourself as a pompous moralizer.

Would you want to be taught by a teacher you can’t even see? You see this as an injustice of deprivation to them. What about the students they teach, et al? That is more of an injustice served. If their religion (not just a religion) is more important than their chance of engaging with society, they should just move to the Gulf States where they should feel more at home, instead of wallowing in their own self-inflicted miserableness in trying to live so insentively in secular societies. It is their choice, isn’t it? Anyway, if the niqab wearers really want education, I’m sure there are possibilities for education in the on-line education area if they really want to stick to it.

/Cont...
Posted by Constance, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 10:18:56 PM
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Pericles,

...Cont

Your use of the word describing the French Lower House Parliament as “sleazy” was an inapt and injurious overstatement. What a sleazy bunch the French must be. The French lower house of Parliament, the National Assembly, voted last week 335 to 1 to prohibit from public places all "clothing intended to hide the face,". You talk of sleaze? How strange. And you talk of control mechanisms and intellectual diversity but don't seem to care how cultural relativism can be so absurd. Muslims have already wiped off the Holocaust on the school curriculum in the UK.

Are you aware where of the origin of political correctness?
It may be of interest for you to know (if you don’t already) that the neologism ''political correctness'' was coined by Lenin in the early 1920's. He freely admitted that P.C. was synonymous with lying, and represented the prevalence of one ideology over another. So, Pericles, whose side are you on?

Lying – how interesting, and that PC is a Communist term. Sounds sleazy and controlling to me.
Posted by Constance, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 10:25:58 PM
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Oh dear........its like watching/reading the Spanish inquisition:)

Since its inception the Spanish Inquisition has been controversial. In 1478 Ferdinand of Aragón (ruled 1471–1504) and Isabella of Castile (ruled 1474–1504) requested papal permission to establish the religious tribunals in Castile. Unlike the medieval papal Inquisition, the Spanish Inquisition was a hybrid religious-secular institution under the authority of the crown, which appointed its officials and supervised its operation. The tribunals employed judicial procedures that were both contrary and offensive to existing Castilian legal practice. The establishment of the Spanish Inquisition in the kingdom of Aragón, which already had its own (albeit moribund) papal Inquisition, was seen as an affront to the kingdom's privileges, and one inquisitor was assassinated in the cathedral of Zaragoza in 1485. During the sixteenth century northern Protestants used the Inquisition as a cornerstone of the anti-Spanish propaganda campaign later dubbed the Black Legend. Even in its abolition the Inquisition was controversial, as it took three attempts to suppress the court, which lingered until 1834.

Since the fifteenth century the Inquisition has inspired a lively and sometimes lurid debate over the nature of its policies and practices.

And has the same here.

I guess some just love to live in the dark-ages.............not thats a bad thing........just old fashion......but nothing wrong with that now...is there?

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Posted by Deep-Blue, Thursday, 30 December 2010 12:32:20 AM
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cryptic

adjective

Definition: mysterious and seeming to have a hidden meaning

Synonyms: enigmatic, obscure, secret, occult, mysterious, puzzling

Antonyms: clear, plain, obvious

Tips: Cryptic comes from the Greek word kruptos, "hidden." It may mean that something is secret and known only to a select group of people, or that a thing's meaning is hidden from plain view and requires decoding, almost as though it were a secret code. Cryptology is the study of codes and code-breaking.

Usage Examples:

Sally was puzzled at her secretary's cryptic message; she couldn't tell whether the meeting had been cancelled or moved to a different time. (obscure, puzzling)

The cryptic rites of the ancient Greek cult of Eleutheros were known only to the initiated. (secret, occult)

His cryptic behavior led me to believe that he was hiding a secret. (mysterious, puzzling)

Stop being so cryptic, and tell me what's going on. (obscure, secretive, puzzling)

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Posted by Deep-Blue, Thursday, 30 December 2010 12:38:59 AM
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Lying – how interesting, and that PC is a Communist term. Sounds sleazy and controlling to me.
Posted by Constance, Wednesday, 29 December 2010 10:25:58 PM

Hey con-no....live with the old....cause no-one gives a :)

But the clock keeps on ticking:)

or Iam I out of order?

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Posted by Deep-Blue, Thursday, 30 December 2010 12:51:56 AM
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