huggins, nobody is making excuses for anything. The problems with the White Ribbon campaign have been very clearly explained.

Are you unable to understand what is being said, or are you simply trying to be a troll?

Huggins "what I dont get is why so many ""Men"" at this sight want to just make excuses for bashing their Woman"

Just where have any of the men on this site made an excuse for bashing women?

If you don't already know the little blue symbol under each post will copy the link so that you can post links in your response. If you use Firefox you may need to use a right mouse button click and select "copy link location" eg http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11280#190568

The closest I can think of is pointing out that men who are being assaulted by their partners are more likely to hit especially if they can't get any real support and in the face of gendered campaigns that refuse to condemn all initiation of violence.

R0bert

Huggins, I have constantly promoted the fact that dealing with violence against women, is only dealing with a part of the problem, and a much more holistic approach should be taken.

However, as previously stated, the definition of DV gets expanded and then people argue over the fall back position of physical violence and who does the most physical damage.

And making false accusations that people are making excuses for hitting their women, does nothing for this forum.

Me I haven't hit anyone for at least 30 years, and the last person I hit was a bloke.

ROBert, thanks for the tip.

Hollebeqc, ""Or else they think it's ok to slap their wife around a bit. Just a little bit."" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11280#190349

Antispitec, "" these people are basically saying that women can do anything they like to provoke their men and the men must simply accept it passively, since even raising his voice could lead to him being labelled "violent"."" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11280#190434

benk, ""between half and a third of DV is aimed at men and that most is reciprocal."" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11280#190440

vana, ""The White Ribbon campaign does not highlight who is most likely to start the arguments (about 70% of the time the arguments are started by the woman)"" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11280#190460

Roscop, ""Complained about what? ...the violence they the women started?

Do you know how long ago the phrase "nagging housewife" was coined? Obviously not."" http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11280#190502

Sounds like making excuses to me, ""she started it"", ""she nagged me"" yadayada.

Antispetic, is it trolling to point out that you fellas seem to be trying to hidebehind excuses like ""nagging"" and ""she started it"". Whats next, ""I was drunk so its not realy my fault""?? No wonder we need White Ribon Day.

@WHITERIBBONAUSTRALIA....you say:

//White Ribbon recognises that the best way to prevent violent assaults on men is to change the behaviour of other men//

In which case you must start at the deepest levels of the human being.

THE PROBLEM....DEFINED:

19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. (Gal 5:19ff)

THE SOLUTION:

3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again." (John 3:3)

That experience,change of direction leads to....

THE NEW LIFE.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control.
(Gal 5:22ff)

Problem...solved.

Huggin's I've checked those links and non are as far as I can tell making excuses for hitting women. Have another read of them and try to do it starting without the assumption that the posters are violent towards women.

What is being pointing out is the double standards about violence and occasionally pointing out that if you push someone hard enough some will crack. I don't think that excuses the violence rather it's a reminder of human frailty and the dangers of treating people as disposable.

You have made a fairly nasty claim about other male posters and the evidence that you provided to back it up does not say what you claim.

R0bert