This is a link to the current preamble:

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/general/constitution/preamble.htm

Hard to see the point in adding afore-mentioned fawning apology to this piece of verbose Parliament-speak, harder still to imagine ANYONE ever caring. Refer earlier post as to the more constructive path to follow.

John asks:

//Do we really need a constitutional referendum to 'recognise the special place of our first peoples'?//

Well of COURSE we do John...specially if our agenda is to:

-"Abolish the white race" (and it's socially constructed power structures)

http://racetraitor.org/abolish.html

And if you wish to undermine any sense of White solidarity, and flood whites with unremitting GUILT.. it's exactly what you would do!

Don't look at the 'Referendum' as a single event...it is part of a process. "The invevitability of gradualism"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Estate

http://www.fabian.org.au/1102.asp Most interesting to see the personalities connected to the Fabians. A high percentage of a particular ethno religious group seems to feature here too. (like with the Marxisats and Frankfurt School-same group) I can't figure out the connection yet.

Quick response, I think 97.7% of voting constituents succumbed to the nonsense and untruths in relation to the meaning and background of that referendum, but have learnt something from subsequent events, particularly the damage done to the aboriginal people by the corrosive effects of the divisive policies and disingenuous assertions about such items as the non existent “stolen generations”.

A referendum is not an event which can be untruthfully reported by a subversive media, as was done in pretending that 250,000 people walked across the Bridge to support the mendacious and divisive “sorry” campaign.

It is comforting that we occasionally see an honest sensible article like this one contributed by John Stone.

There is a plethora of nonsense, impeding action to help aboriginal people, generated from use of the victim status imposed upon them by the politicians and activists who have done such disservice to these people over the years since 1967.

The diatribes against civilization and sense, based on lies, do more harm to the politically generated victims, than ever any of the policies in place before the current political movement gained impetus. As a result of the work done by the activists supporting this corrosive political movement there are now more children than ever being removed from aboriginal families.

The policy of assimilation was working, until the idealogues attacked it, and it must now be reinstated. As many of those who were sought to be recruited to the “stolen generation” have said: “We were not stolen. We were saved”

one under god: You are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

I was doing Ok until I hit "As for "their ancient and continuing cultures" graphically chronicled in the 2007 Northern Territory Little Children are Sacred report, to take only one example, the less said about the violence-racked, female-oppressive, sexually predatory cultures of the Australian Aboriginal the better."

That may be a part of the story but it's not the whole story. Clearly there are some cultural differences between modern western values on some of those issues and traditional aboriginal culture just as there are differences to western values of 10, 20 , 50 etc years ago. That does not mean that we can't value western history even if we do say we could have done better.

The "violence-racked, female-oppressive, sexually predatory cultures" are examples of what goes wrong when people loose hope and respect for themselves and their communities.

Before reading this piece I suspect that I would have shared John Stone's views about the referendum, that comment leaves me looking a bit harder.

R0bert

i like the way you use quasi authority..to get your loaded words into print..[john]..your joining of authority...with your bias....<<As for.."their ancient and continuing cultures"..>>

this is easilly deleted...by the quasi..<<graphically chronicled in the 2007 Northern Territory Little Children are Sacred report,>>

or as in the next quote by somehighcourt judge
but lets shear one sheep at a time

<<to take only one example>>
to take one egsample...[from the report?]

ok please reveal,IT..where does it say..IN THE REPORT..<<"the less said..about the violence-racked,..female-oppressive,..sexually predatory cultures..of the Australian Aboriginal the better.">>

it seems a pretty biased ...'report'...if it decares this ammoung its findings...[lest we forget...it was rape...by the invaders..who gave us these blue eyed darkies...white enough..to be taken from the isolationist hells...whitefella put us in]

but let move on to ya..next..AUTHORITY<<..The former..chief justice..of the High Court,..Harry Gibbs,..in his essay "A Preamble: The Issues",..summed up..by asking*..!

<<whether a preamble..should "incorporate any expression of opinion or values,>>edited<<..To this..he gave a very firm//"No".>>

hey he's doing a kevi...answering his OWN question
yet note the BIT..*YOU ADDED IN-between...
that feeds into your typical BIAS

<<however firmly held..by those who may claim to be an elite,>>
or quasi authority...or people with loaded adgendas?

<<unless it is certain*..>>certain as in factually correct?
or certain in their[your]..own bigoted biased minds?

<<that those opinions>>lol..<<and values>>llol<<are generally accepted..by Australian society as a whole,>>>clearly the motivation of racuists..ensure they herd together...and in their mass..thus get heard...

over and above..the know-nothings..care nothings..of the dumbed down..public...in guilt ridden..:ape-thy..

born in ignorance..fed by hatemongers..in print and media..[or sitting in YOUR highcourts..]..casting moral judgments...based on civil juristiction obtained..by threat force and fear

but*..we at least AGREE..<<..and are likely to continue to command general acceptance?">>>..due to public IGNORANCE and APaTHY...instiled them by the fearmongers

we sold them..the old testiment...and now these churchie converts practice an eye for an eye..BECAUSE THATS WHAT THE MISSION-ry taught..the reveared ELDERS..

took a people..WHO LIVED BY COMPLET consencus
who bannished..those obeying the dark spirits..after installing...the trible markings..of their censure/bannishment upon their forms..[for all to see]

who white*fella...made into chiefs...and revered old ones...
[who's govt sanctioned..quasi authority...and special treats..[booze]
and other special powers..while genociding the true leaders..[its basdioc genocide 101...still practiced today in palistein...and the balkins]

basiclly you kill off the leaders.
re-educate..their children

leave a few retarded ones behind..to make the whole lot look bad
then go in for the theft of their cluture and future

[who then further betrayed..their family/tribes
and joined forces..with the formentioned OUT-CASTS]

so lets look what the tide brought in next

[the vuultures ganging up to prevent
the adgenda trying to fix the MANYFOLD past errors]

bah...why bother
let their words reveal their bias