Absent...!

I always liked it better when he started all his sentences with absent.

ALGOREisRICH,

You say that Amanda wants to "effectivly LABEL all White Australians with that genocidal brush" but you constantly do the same thing by using quotes from radical loonies to underline your (obvious) obsessive hatred of those who hold different religious beliefs from yourself.

You also want social unity rather than diversity - but I suspect that it's only as long as that unity is in harmony with your own beliefs

Are you willing to adapt yourself to a system in which you are the minority or demand that it changes to suit you? A world full of BOAZs?

Rather than come up with all sorts of solutions I think you should consider yourself part of the problem.

Why not accept that this massacre is part of the historical record and that we should be mature enough to acknowledge it in it's own right and move on instead of using the deaths of innocents to promote your own prejudices. Nobody ever raised a statue to a critic.

Patrick Dodson on Constitutional recognition for indigenous Australians, November 15, 2010:
"As with many indigenous people, I have no appetite to relive history, but I crave an honest dialogue in Australia" http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/genuine-attempt-to-write-first-peoples-into-nations-contract-20101114-17sm8.html.

hi Pericles, a minuscule portion of the evidence referred to in my eighth post on this thread is referenced in three links published in my sixth post, hope this helps. The concept of a women's jurisdiction has already been discussed at length on this forum http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=3513&page=1. If you have anything further to add perhaps you could start a new thread.

Whistler,

I checked out that thread and still couldn't make any sense out of the idea of separate jurisdictions for men and women. You still don't specify what might be the subjects of deliberations of such a body (with surely the obvious implication that what isn't women's business is probably men's business, from which women are, in your model, to be excluded, or have I got that wrong too ?) Who decides what is men's, and women's, business ?

For most of us, we have spent most of our lives indirectly under the shadow of Apartheid in South Africa, and the tacit threat of its emulation in the US, Australia and other countries, where minorities could be hived off into the sticks, to leave the power and the richest pickings to the favoured majority. Colonialism is still fresh in the minds of some of us. Division, difference and inequality have been familiar evils. Equal rights is a very valuable, but fragile, creation, mostly of the post-war years.

Hence, the hostility of many, even on the Left, to the notion of large numbers of Indigenous people at universities, or living in the cities, and the devaluing of their efforts. Hence the approval of people, no matter in what dreadful conditions they may be forced to live, who 'wish' to go off into the remotest parts of the country and stay out of the way. Hence the easy assumption that Blacks should attend only to Black matters and Whites can attend to all the rest, which are by definition 'White' matters. Hence the easy assumptions about how fixed 'cultures' are, how wrong mixed marriages are, how alien modern living is for genuine Indigenous people, etc.

So if you want to win over anybody to your divisive notions, start going into details, give us something to get our teeth into. But don't expect 100 % support for what some believe is actually a quintessentially evil notion.

Joe

hi Loudmouth, excellent candidate for a new thread!

I feel a bit redundant. I have no need to identify racism and racists here. They do a perfectly good job of identifying and displaying examples of these two socio cultural phenomena themselves.