A J. Phillips,

I will not answer any of your questions because of the amount of personalised name calling and abuse contained in your posts.

Education in this country is now of the greatest jokes in the country. Someone can actually complete a degree in a university, but still not pass the imigration department's standard test for English.

While various members of the education system say that education helps broaden minds, no one can state any different opinion to a teacher or lecturer without risk of being failed, or risk being abused or have various insults or names directed at them.

No wonder so many foregin students have left, and I think more should be going also.

I would also think many Australian students should be thinking of an overseas education, rather than an education in this country.

Dear Richie 10,

What hairs do I split?

Common sense tells me not to believe in stone age legends because they were in the Bible. Common sense tells me that accounts of miracles are fantasy.

There are many myths about miracle men who were born of a virgin. From "Origins of Pagan and Christian Creeds" by Carpenter:

"At the time of the life or recorded appearance of Jesus of Nazareth, and for some centuries before, the Mediterranean and neighboring world had been the scene of a vast number of pagan creeds and rituals. There were Temples without end dedicated to gods like Apollo or Dionysus among the Greeks, Hercules among the Romans, Mithra among the Persians, Adonis and Attis in Syria and Phrygia, Osiris and Isis and Horus in Egypt, Baal and Astarte among the Babylonians and Carthaginians, and so forth."

There is no more reason for belief in Jesus than to believe in the above gods. You are one of the many gullible people who believe in the invention which is now popular. Gullible people in the past believed in the gods invented in the past.

Secularism maintains that you have a right to believe any nonsense you want to believe, and it is no business of government.

I find this interchange tiresome. Unless you can come up with something I find interesting and stimulating this is my last post for now. Enjoy your superstitions.

vanna,

I’m not surprised you are unable to answer to my questions. I realised quite early in the piece that you hadn’t logically thought through much of what you were saying. Your rantings sound more like a mish-mash of emotions and insecurities dressed as a coherent argument.

<<I will not answer any of your questions because of the amount of personalised name calling and abuse contained in your posts.>>

Your false accusations - mere slander - don’t fool anyone either. All they do is reek of desperation; red herrings used to divert attention from your inability to demonstrate any logic behind what you say - a very cowardly way of dealing with the situation. Show me once where I have called you a name.

I am well aware that there are problems in the education system. The question is, how can you demonstrate the truth of your Marxist-feminist conspiracies? Without the ability to do so, your claims amount to nothing more than mere assertions.

One of the dangers is the assumption that secularism can really work. It very unlikely to ever work really well, what it will do is work better than the alternatives.

The secularist can accept runner's right to believe what he believes but we hit issues when he insists on imposing those beliefs on the education of children. We hit issues when it comes to runners obsession with the sex lives of others (and there is plenty of evidence of how much time he spends fantasizing about that topic in his posts).

Secularism will never be an ideal framework because there are too many boundary issues. We should all be very glad though that our society is running with that model rather than any of the other's tried in other times and other places.

R0bert

2 myths about 'Secularism'

Myth 1 "it is Neutral"

Myth 2 "It does not secretly hate religion"

Ask CYC...it just cost them $5000 because of a corrupt and discriminatory 'secular' judicial system.

R0bert,
ALGOREisRICH,

Secularism ought to be neutral on balance, and allow religion and other belief systems space, while all stay in their own space. Pronouncements by runner & co. ought not upset the balance.

As far as CYC goes, perhaps they ought to accept the premise that sexuality is not chosen i.e. it is innate (God-given) including homosexuality. Hence, it is as unfair to discriminate on sexuality as it is to discriminate on the basis of religion.