http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11072#185495

Bugsy, Please don't tell me that you are unaware of this scientific information which contradicts the global warmers. The 3rd link is to a documentary aired on 4 corners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLfBXRPoHRc

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4488155708142678419#

The kind of action being proposed by the Red/green/getup/labour Communist coalition will lead to Armageddon. Economically, with Australia's economy carefully structured to suffer the most. The "Great Depression" just wasn't good enough for you, you want more, so that all our assets can be bought up for peanuts & all our children sold into slavery.

Together with a destruction of Agriculture Worldwide that will wipe out Billions.

Why should you not be charged along with all the other loony lefties with conspiring to commit an ETS, Economic Treason Scam?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11072#185512

bonmot, What part of "Global Dimming" & "Economic Terrorism" don't you understand?

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11072#185517

579, i was polite enough to answer your comments. You could try to answer mine, or don't you have any?

BTW, i am not in favour of doing nothing. There is more than one way to skin a cat. This problem, if, there is one could be dealt with easily without all the destruction.

I propose a reforestation project in central Australia. If the Israeli's can make the Negev desert bloom then so can we.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11072#185518

Ken Fabos, i think your sentiments & arguments are spot on, but the wrong way around. The Loony Lefties are clearly, deliberately trying to destroy both our environment & the economy so that, it will be easier for the Communist Chinese to take our country with all the resources they want, over.

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11072#185523

bonmot again, So we are trying to shut down the debate are we. How typical of the Red/green/getup/labour Communist coalition. In my experience whenever somebody accuses others, of some evil, "greatest moral challenge of our time", it usually means that they, are in fact the ones, guilty of committing the crime first.

Caste your eyes over this little beauty.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8630135369495797236#

Pot, meet Kettle.

I think all the doom sayers, just might have given up having their favourite carbonate drink ;).

I am not sure you have properly thought through whatever it is you believe Formersnag.

Global dimming is a serious concern. I don't know where you got the idea that it contradicts the 'global warmers'? You did check out parts 4 and 5 of that documentary you posted, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayd5R2NkVcA&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA74df19bWs&feature=related

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=11072#185585

Bugsy, if there is some truth to what the global warmers are saying, then reducing the burning of fossil fuels to quickly, without first planting billions of trees to breath in all the CO2 that is allegedly, already here, may reduce pollution, other than CO2 too quickly, removing the "shade cloth" effect caused by all the "Particulate Matter".

This might in fact trigger a catastrophic, fast warming, more deadly than even the worst scaremongering of the global warmers. Act too quickly, in the wrong way & you may, make the problem, way worse, in the short to medium term, before it gets better.

That's just the climate side, not the suicidal economics.

Nice to have you on board Formersnag. I don't think we are in any danger of reducing fossil fuel burning too quickly, do you? The challenge is that we can reduce them at all. And we need to. Global dimming is not going to save us forever, as the GHG concentrations continue to rise...

The take home message is that we can't just work on improving our air quality without tackling the GHG issue, and that means CO2.