REXW asks:

Shall we discuss the hundreds of UN resolutions that the apartheid state of Israel has ignored over the period with the help of the US veto, always on hand for such a purpose.

Well hey YES Rex.. let's discuss them.

Point 1 "UN resolutions" are determined by

a) Motions
b) Votes

The 'VOTES' depend on the political flavor of the countries concerned.
The OIC is at least 56 nations (Islamic) who always vote as a bloc and always against Israel.

Point 2 "The OIC alone can determine which resolutions are raised and approved"

OIC ="Organization of Islamic Conference"

VOTES are also determined by the network of economic/military aid packages which various 'rich' countries have invested to produce those very votes.

So.. next time you want to have an "Israel bash" in the name of your Socialist agenda.. make sure your listeners
a) Don't have brains.
b) Don't know how the UN works.

Otherwise..you will be brought to book for such clearly biased statements.

Paul'l, you have not considered Israel's illegal atomic weaponry in your argumentt,

Could say, for sure, that it is mainly why Israel is so unpopular. Ask at any of our registered government academias.

BB, WA.

Perhaps any people anxious to see why Rhys and I and others support the Jewish people, those that want an equitable solution for the middle east, should go to www.iajv.org and see what this Jewish organisation states as their objective.

Then you may also care to see the Weekend Australian, Inquirer section, page 5 to the large advertisement by this Jewish Group of Independent Australian Jewish Voices who clearly used a leader line stating......

" The attitude we adopt towards the Arab minority will provide the real test of our moral standards as a people" Albert Einstein, 1948

Yes, 1948

For those cynical commentators who do not allow themselves to accept the fact that even Palestinians have concerns for the real Jewish people, like all the members of the above group, I suggest that they look at this web site, read the objectives and remember that such groups exist all over the world. They are the real Jewish people and I am pleased to help them every day of every year.

The Zionists, however, are a different story.

I do hope our feckless Prime Minister, in her desire to cultivate these un-Australian Melbourne-based lobby groups, can tell the difference.

I doubt it.

While constantly throwing the the punch-word "zionist", nobody here (not even the author) actually defined what it means, and therefore how many adherents are we actually referring to.

Especially Arjay, saying: "The Zionists are to Israel what the Nazis were to Germany" - we do have the right to know who exactly are you referring to!

Most Israelis would consider themselves "zionist", defining it naively as "A zionist is a good and loyal citizen who helps his/her fellow beings". In Israel, helping an old lady to cross the road is considered a "zionist act". Is this what you call "Nazi"? otherwise, please define the term "zionist" so we can all talk the same language.

Yutsuyu,

I think you'll find that the author didn't use the term 'zionist'.

'Zionist ', is a perjorative term ,at least as you see it it on this thread, used by the loony-left to describe any Israeli/jew/supporter of either who doesn't fully subscribe to their simplistic/narrow worldview.

You will see it tossed about freely and it would not surprise me if most of the people using the term weren't entirely sure of what it does mean. So I'm not surprised your confused.

Rexw,

I see you are now the arbiter of who is and isn't a real Jew. Its is simply wonderfull that you have been promoted to this position. Can you please let us know what qualifications you have? Are you are born jew spotter? Or is it a learned pursuit?

Mac,

I LOVED this little bit

" Our problem is to influence our morally bankrupt political elites before the Palestinians 'disappear'."

Is it a bit like saving the spotted-tailed quoll from extinction?

How exactly are the Palestinians going to disappear? Demographically they are outbreeding the jews at a significant rate. At current birth rates, Arabs in Israel will outnumber Jews within 50 years.

In fact, I wonder if this might not be the primary cause of Palestinan reluctance to negotiate a peaceful, two state solution, now.

Dear Paul.... you make an interesting observation about birth rates.

But I'd like to add to that the fact that Settlers as a segment of Israeli population are breeding at 3 times the rate of non settlers.

This means that over time, they will dominate Israels political landscape.

If the Palestinians are facing soooooo much hardship, and poverty.. I must ask "why" are they breeding so prolifically? Well the answer is a given....

a) They expect the world to pick up the tab
b) They want to breed 'fighters' to attack Israel.

Paul.. I would value your considered input to a thread which I think you will enjoy as it unfolds... Quintus Fabius Maximus...
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=4024

I apologise for the shameless self promotion :) but will show it's value soon.