Dear Jay

Here you are complaining that giving homosexuals equal rights is homogenising everything, yet on other threads you are promoting all white nations.

Contradicting yourself. No doubt you'll devise some doublespeak to explain away this latest bit of hypocrisy. At least you will provide a bit of entertainment tinged with sadness at your obvious bigotry towards those different from you.

Briar Rose, "Insisting that a 'family' can only take the form you decide is controlling behaviour."

Nonetheless that is what you are doing by applying the universal mould of church and State defined and regulated marriage to gays.

This is a logical controlling follow-on from the precedent of dumping the de facto laws onto gays, which was entirely unsuitable in application and effect for the choices and lifestyles of the greatest majority of gays and done with consultation.

As usual the middle class academics and bureaucrats who believe they know what is best for others are at it again with the demand for gay marriage. Honestly, does anyone really believe the Greens, the sponsors of gay marriage, have ever consulted with anyone? This is their brave new world and it has done the opposite of what most gays would favour in legitimising the State's interest and interference in the private lives and bedrooms of gays.

Lawyers are in favour of more regulation of gay relationships because of the wads of money they get from fomenting strife in break-ups. What was once easily understandable and cost-free now automatically involves the State, is likely to cost a small fortune in legal fees and results in life-long animosity.

The de facto definitions (government departments differ) are so murky and general as to cause long and expensive debates between lawyers and even between the government's own bureaucrats who apply them in their decisions affecting citizen's lives.

@ History Buff

Public opinion polls:

Back in June 2007, the results of a Galaxy poll commissioned by advocacy group GetUp! were released. The poll measured opinions of 1100 Australians aged 16 and over.

- 71% of respondents agreed that same-sex partners should have the same legal rights as de facto heterosexual couples.
- 57% of respondents supported same-sex marriage. The poll suggests a 20-point jump in support since 2004, when Newspoll found 38 per cent in favour and 44 per cent against.

In May 2008, a survey of 15,000 women aged 20 and above by the Australian Women's Weekly found that more than 70% said same-sex couples should have the same rights as heterosexual couples. This is consistent with the nationwide Galaxy poll results from June 2007. Weblink to that news article: http://www.news.com.au/women-think-gay-rights-ok-migrants-not/story-e6frfkp9-1111116467897

Now two years later in June 2009, a Galaxy poll conducted for Australian Marriage Equality measured the opinions of 1100 Australians aged 16 or older. The poll found that 60% of Australians would support same-sex marriage, with 36% opposed and 4% undecided. It also found that 58% of Australians would support the recognition of same-sex marriages formed in other countries in Australian Law.[95] The breakdown of the poll suggested that support was strongest amongst women (68%), Labor voters (64%), Greens voters (82%), and those aged 16–24 (74%). It also suggested that support was strongest in New South Wales and weakest in Queensland and South Australia, though a majority in all states were in support

Galaxy opinion polling is not associated with any gay rights organisations and is totally independent.

@ Severin.
Explain the contradiction in my thinking, if you will, I'm against assimilation on both counts.
I talk about all White Nations existing alongside and in peace with all black Nations, all Asian Nations etc.
There are around 50 all Black countries governed by Black people for Black people.
There are around the same number of all Asian countries, governed by and for the benefit of Asians.
There is not one all White country in the world governed by and for the benefit of White people.
White people are 9% of the world's population yet we have no home of our own, not one all White country.
Nigeria has a population of 150 million,with several thousand White residents.
Britain has 61 million people with around 500,000 Nigerians living there.
Nigeria is considerably richer in natural resources and has more arable land than Britain.
Why are Nigerians being allowed into Britain?
They have no reason to be there.
Why are Africans in Finland and Ireland?

Briar you said: “There have been ‘fatherless families’ for decades, and most of them have nothing at all to do with gays and lesbians, but are heterosexual.” Ah, so only some break up families?

Of course, radical lesbian feminists were condemning and undermining the traditional family unit for decades, but were where you then Briar?

It appears that only lesbians can make judgments to destroy the traditional family, but when conservatives make judgments to protect innocent children, they become the bad guys. And Briar, why purposefully create more fatherless families? It seems like some people really have it in for men and fathers, in particular

Jason84 – your obsession with the leftwing Galaxy poll is laughable. But present your results to Labor if you think your side has hoodwinked the public (for now).

Recently, there was a much bigger poll, called the election, where the more conservative Liberal Party took more seats from a first term government in living memory. So I guess Galaxy was wrong.

My poll listened to millions. Your “poll” took in the views of a few hundred people, “selected” at certain times in certain areas. Nice try