Jay Of Melbourne

What you say then JOM, is Gays may one day configure themselves into a tribal group, as do Gypsies now for example, in order to survive a possible pogrom prompted by a future reformation of society, with the inevitable backlash against the current high profiling and unnaturally open assimilation of all aspects of their perceived injustices, by means of political agitation, forced on a currently passive western society, more and more devoid and weakened itself by the loss of its traditional anchor of moral code and direction, the light of Christian ethics, replaced by a culture of greed and Godlessness, and subjected to the strengthening cult of Atheism. Mmmmm.

Jay Of Melbourne

I was not going to genuinely respond to your posts but I could not hold back my gratitude towards you. You see want to thank you for posting your original message to me stating:

"If homosexual marriage is legalised you'll face more discrimination and outright hatred, not less"

When you post messages like that on public forums its actually helping us gays and lesbians gain federal anti-discrimination laws. So I please urge you to continue posting messages threatening discrimination as it helps our cause, I am forever grateful - keep up the great work for us.

You're welcome Jason84,
That's a point from another post, "diversity" needs a Police State to enforce "tolerance".
There's another aspect to your push for "equal love".
At this point in time you're relying on Baby Boomers for legitimacy and support, bad move, they're not reliable allies and they'll turn their back on you or sell you out.
The boomers are a failed, dysfunctional generation, every effort at "change" that's come from them has failed, every single one.
The WW2 generation set out to change Australia and largely succeeded (for better or worse) but they turned their backs on their children, gave them no guidance and little moral support, said "a job well done' and washed their hands of the whole thing.
Notice the way that the "youth" are now waking up and starting to say to the Boomers "Hey you guys saw the country and the world going to hell and didn't do a damn thing about it, EPIC FAIL!".
Then, as noted above the Boomers are becoming more reactionary, more conservative and are effectively now a blocking force in our society.
This is the world you live in now, think about what might be coming up when the boomers are really challenged by the "youth".

@ Diver Dan,
Pretty much, San Francisco is a good example of out group consolidation at work as are the burgeoning Islamic communities (I don't use the word enclave, ask me why if you like) in say, Bradford or Marseilles.

History Buff - I did not write "anti gay", I wrote "anti gay marriage." There is an important difference.

There have been "fatherless families" for decades, and most of them have nothing at all to do with gays and lesbians, but are heterosexual.

If it's "fatherless families" you're concerned about,there's currently far more people who make that choice than gays and lesbians. For many people, it isn't a choice, but a necessity.

It isn't controlling to be inclusive - it is controlling to exclude.

Insisting that a "family" can only take the form you decide is controlling behaviour.

Jay Of Melbourne

As wafting coolness of gentle summer breeze refresh parched arid fields to attend hot days

By flickering candle light to bright morning light, toils tortured hand of honest yon scribe

To missal complete, blank page replete with refresh of the truth and the light to the lies.

Well Said..

@ Briar Rose.
Inclusion and assimilation kills diversity and creativity.
The "Gay' activists, who are Trotskyites almost to a person are not about diversity, they're about the total eradication of all particularism, restriction of freedom of expression and association and the creation of a society composed of absolutely identical beings.
Bohemians, including homosexuals were always regarded, somewhat wistfully by the "Squares" as free spirits, untamed, non conformist, Avant Garde even.
Imagine the grey, mirthless dystopia where Oscar Wilde and Quentin Crisp were stay at home dads passing around baby photos at parties and boring everyone stupid with their renovation plans.
I don't know many homosexuals anymore, not since I gave up taking drugs anyway, which was the main context in which I used to meet them.
The ones I do know are boisterous non conformists and eccentrics, they lead wild, anarchic lives, seemingly teetering on the brink of disaster at every turn, unaware or unconcerned by social mores.
Value eccentricity, tolerate the Bohemian and the Avant Garde, stay true to tradition but don't drain all the colour and life from the world by homogenising everything.