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Abbott: Australia’s Sarah Palin : Comments

By Kellie Tranter, published 19/8/2010

Tony Abbott: can you really trust someone willing to opportunistically disclaim his entrenched values and opinions?

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We will always have people who appear intelligent,and yet live their lives based on superstition.That they attain high office is not surprising as there is plenty of them.When they insist, as they will, that their moral view is the right and only view, then they must be challenged. Advocates of physical pain and denial, as a way of life, have to be exposed and their ideas tested.The superstition of "original sin" is so deeply ingrained in the consciousness of Tony Abbott that he has no choice but to "believe". He is a product of propaganda.That he insists on others conducting their lives along his prescription is arrogance.That he pursues power in order to coerce people into his way of life is corrupt.So what we have is an intelligent, superstitious,arrogant,corrupt,power hungry person.A perfect combination for high office.
Posted by ocm, Monday, 23 August 2010 1:45:36 PM
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Abbott and Palin they both believe or pretend to believe to gain the gullible religious vote (you don't know for sure if they really believe this nonsense do any of you) in talking snakes and the other fairies in the garden of Eden and a 6000 year old planet Earth created by a supernatural force in six days of completely(insane)fantasy myths, just like the Islamic suicide bombers and the Taliban do! These people believe in the same myths, they are interchangeable Christian Taliban, Islamic Taliban!
History shows all religions are capable of atrocities, first they demand you believe absurdities than they demand you commit atrocities.
You people commenting on the Nazi's just remember Hitler and all his European allies were all right wing fascist Catholics, Mussolini created the Vatican State in 1929, Franco, (The Japanese religious fanatic fascist had a God Emperor) the Nazi storm troopers had (Gott Mitt Uns) "God With Us" on their belt buckles! What a pedigree the modern religious fascist far right has?
Posted by HFR, Monday, 23 August 2010 8:52:45 PM
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HFR,

Hitler was not a Catholic by the time he ruled Germany. He abhorred the Catholic Church and simply postponed destroying it because of the problems trying this would have caused him during the war. The only successful resistance to Hitler within Germany came from the Catholic Church via Bishop Galens whose public protest stopped the murder of the disabled for a time by the Nazis. Read Richard J. Evans’s series on the Third Reich for details.
Posted by Chris C, Monday, 23 August 2010 10:29:13 PM
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Chris C, Read Mein Kampf, Hitler was and always was a catholic, he felt Jesus next to him protecting him always, he taxed catholic Germans directly for the Vatican, every German soldier had Gott Mitt Uns "God With Us" on their belt buckles, Hitler used religion like every right winger in history has, he was a religious fanatic, he gassed and burnt 5 million Jews for Jesus! Every Nazi war criminal escaped Europe with Vatican passports, from the Vatican State, the evil catholic fascist Mussolini created in 1929. Remember what the catholic church, Mussolini, Franco and Hitler together did to democracy in Spain, they murdered it?
When fascism comes to your country it will have a flag in one hand and a bible in the other. Patriotism and religion is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Posted by HFR, Thursday, 26 August 2010 7:39:19 PM
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HFR,

“Hitler’s hostility to Christianity reached new heights, or depths, during the war. It was a frequent theme of his mealtime monologues. After the war was over and victory assured, he said in 1942, the Concordat he had signed with the Catholic Church in 1933 would be formally abrogated and the Church would be dealt with like any other non-Nazi voluntary association [i.e,. liquidated]…Priests, he said, were ‘black bugs’, ‘abortions in cassocks ‘. …Science, he declared, would easily destroy the last remaining vestiges of superstition…’Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of human failure’…Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilization by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society.’…’National socialism and religion will no longer be able to exist together.’” (The Third Reich in Power, Richard J. Evans, p. 547)

Hitler had nothing to do with German soldiers having “God with us” on their belt buckles. This had been the situation for the regular army since before the First World War, and Hitler’s own army, the Waffen SS, had “My honour is loyalty” on theirs.

My study of Nazi Germany has not produced any reference to Hitler’s reason for the holocaust being “for Jesus”. Do you have any?

I’m not expecting fascism to come to my country.
Posted by Chris C, Friday, 27 August 2010 4:42:32 PM
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Chris C,CatholicArrogance.Org/Catholic/Hitlersfaith.html.
Posted by HFR, Saturday, 28 August 2010 8:14:48 PM
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