I agree pynchme, but your last statement is pretty funny.

I'll get in first before the others...

Sex with children IS normal for people who are paedophiles.

The difference being of course that consensual gay sex hurts nobody.

With the right lube of course.

Cue pynchme's assertion not all gay guys have anal.

We seem to go over a lot of old ground on OLO...

Well folks, the debate on the pros and cons of homosexuality has fallen into its usual heap; but whereto from here? The article was a piece written for the exclusive benefit of the homosexual element, and I personally do not accept any of Dr Wilsons postulations: But then, I have little reason to accept her notions (which hopefully is what will remain of the quest for gay rights, confined to the basket of notionality( not a correct conjugation I know,any English teachers out there?)!). Keep on keep'n on.

In my experience those that are most opposed to homosexuality are usually closet homosexuals themselves. I wonder if Diver Dan has something to hide.

Houellebecq: Taking the cue - thanks! Funny but as I pressed send I had a faint inking that someone would raise the paedophile argument.

Anyway, as you H already know, but it bears repeating - It's not only the case that anal sex is not always the choice of homosexuals, but that it occurs amongst heterosexual couples too.

As to the paedophile thing, as you point out, we need to differentiate between sex between two adults who are willing participants and sex that exploits another who can't consent.

Excellent posts, Pynchme.

Well diver dan, you still haven't provided a logical reason as why same-sex marriage should remain illegal.

That's right, Rhys. There are some very well-known cases of strong anti-gay advocates who happened to be caught with male prostitutes, e.g. U.S. evangelical Christian Ted Haggard.

I do feel sad for them that their warped, indoctrinating environment caused them to feel that they either have to live a lie for the rest of their lives, or be sinful and end up in hell.
But I feel even more sorry for their wives.

So Rhys, when you say that the ones who protest too much might be gay themselves, you made a very good point.
Didn't he, Diver dan and Runner?

Get real, McReal.
<<Homosexuality is not a choice: it is hard-wired; it is God-given.>>
Tell that to former homosexual activists:
Linda Jernigan,
Charlene Coltrane,
Michael Glatze,
Jackie Clune,
Janet Boynes,
etc
<<To deny that is immoral.>>
Funny, they say that homosexual behaviour, like what they used to engage in, is immoral.

Rhys Jones,
<<In my experience those that are most opposed to homosexuality are usually closet homosexuals themselves.>>
Yeah,
like most people who oppose war are closet soldiers,
like most people who oppose abortion are closet abortionists,
like most people who oppose rape are closet rapists,
like most people who oppose global warming are closet global warmers,
like most people who oppose racism are closet racists,
like most people who oppose hate are closet haters,
like most people who oppose homophobia are closet homophobes,
etc.

That was a really clever and original thought you had there, Rhys.
Did you make it up yourself?