This article by Carlill is a classic example of propagandistic repetition in which propaganda is repeated ad infinitum in all media vehicles, eventually morphing to become known fact thus the propagandist succeeds in manipulating information to dupe the populace into supporting whatever is being peddled as the truth. The events as portrayed by Carlill have been deftly altered, whether by him or others; to always depict Israel as the offended party/the victim.

Surprisingly when those duped people become aware of the real incontrovertible facts, they are unable to resile from their formerly held belief, incredibly repeating and perpetuating the lie that they held as truth for so many years and probably used passionately in the defense of Israel.

Why..........?

Just mulling, but maybe it’s something to do with the programming we’re subjected to, that our parents were subjected to, that their parents were subjected to and so forth through time to the 3rd Century when Constantine announced his edict making Xtianity the state religion of the Empire. The new law was then enforced at the point of a Roman spear; hence all Roman subjects, including Europeans that refused to abandon their traditional faiths were pronounced “heretics” by the Roman Catholic Church and put to death.

Perhaps it is the last 2,000 years of the Church’s version of the Hebrew faith brain washed into us such that we can see no story other than the Church’s.

Admittedly Israel practices the very latest in public affairs communications, especially for media exposure of its actions that are newscast in the West, always employing blonde haired white European females that are impeccably presented, speaking perfectly calm English albeit with an American accent, as Israeli Gov’t spokespersons to conduct news conferences explaining Israeli actions and to answer questions. The western media, which is famously biased (ah-la Oliver Stone), in reply will always broadcast a Palestinian dark skinned male taped in the conflict situ with destroyed buildings in the background, unwashed, unshaven, sweaty, with soiled clothing, right in your face TV screaming in some incomprehensible language and sho'nuff the viewer forms immediate negatively biased opinions.

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Carlill asserts the outcome of Camp David is well known, Israel offered the Palestinians a state in 92 per cent of the West Bank and all of the Gaza Strip but Yasser Arafat rejected the offer.

Carlill then proceeds to spin the core of the propaganda as to the “why”.

The Israeli offer of 92% of the West Bank and all of the Gaza Strip sounds very reasonable; one is left with one conclusion - that the Israeli’s are doing their damndest for peace and that it is the barbarian Palestinians whom are intransigent in refusing the generous offer.

Least that’s what you’re meant to believe. However the bedrock of the “2 State Solution” has always been the creation of two fiscally viable, independent states, co-existing as equal neighbours.

The details that the media and Carlill did not report on is that the Israeli offer was insincere in that it denied Palestinians control over their own borders, airspace and water resources while legitimising and expanding Israeli colonies further into Palestinian territory.

PM Barack’s offer was to divide Palestine into 4 prefectures detached from each other by Israeli settlement corridors as well as surrounded by Israel. Palestine would then be the Northern West Bank, Central West Bank, Southern West Bank and Gaza. Travel between prefectures would require crossing Israeli territory meaning border control laws, after all any civilised country has border controls who would deny that? The ulterior motive of course, was to subject movement of Palestinians within their own country to capricious Israeli control.

But more than just the internal control, Israel would also control air and sea ports and thus international movements of goods and people. Had Arafat accepted the offer, the new independent Palestine would have been 4 subsets of a large – prison - under strict Israeli control, effectively placing a noose around the collective Palestinian neck that Israel could tighten at whim.

On top of the above partitioning, Israel also demanded relinquishment of claims to Palestinian East Jerusalem and of the right of return to their properties from which they were forcibly evicted in 1948.

I have lived with Muslims, including ‘moderate’ Islamic clerics. I have listened to members of Hamas, Iranians, Iraqis, and Kuwaitis etc. Many would be well recognised as ordinary people getting on with ordinary lives, very much live and let live. A significant number, however, had a pathological hatred of Jews wishing all dead. Mind you they were equitable; they held a similar hatred for each other as groups. These people were adamant all the world’s problems were caused by Jews!

Whilst that position remains it is hard to envisage resolution occurring. Remember one has an Israeli population of some 7.6M facing a potentially aggressive population of some 218M across the Middle East.

Perhaps Australians should pay attention to issues closer to home – Indonesia’s take over of West Papua is ignored.

Why does the middle east remain a crucible for world history?

[“A significant number, however, had a pathological hatred of Jews wishing all dead.”]

For which Jew is this hatred for?

I would guess that the hatred your Arab associates displayed for Jews is specifically related to the European Atheist immigrants whom self identify as Jews but are invariably ethnic Slavic, from one of the economically depressed old Eastern Bloc nations.

In Australia they would be referred to as “Economic Refugees”. Financially, Israel is a far better fiscal bet than any of those old Stalinist ghettos especially with the guaranteed $billion’s in free US taxpayer aid that has never had expenditure accountability clauses.

The majority conflictingly self identify as Jewish and Atheist, their disdain of Judaism and Islam is unabashedly displayed. That disdain is also extended to Sephardic and Mizrachi Jews whom have retained their natural brown complexions…..a good example would be the significant population of Mizrachi Jews presently living peaceably in Tehran, Iran.
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2004/s1202811.htm

[“Russian has become Israel's de-facto second language, with Russian-speakers comprising some 20% of its population a large part of them not being recognized as Jews, and not being able to get married in Israel”]
[“Zionism very specifically and explicitly asked the international community to be singled out for a very specific and very unique privilege, which was never ever granted to any other group anywhere else. Namely, the right to claim a land as its "National Home" on the basis of ancestors having lived in this land 2000 years ago.”]

The above quotes are from “Is Israel singled out - and why?” by Adam Keller – “The Other Israel - August 1, 2010”.
http://toibillboard.info/Is_Israel_singled_out.htm

Mohammad’s Sword:
[“Every honest Jew who knows the history of his people cannot but feel a deep sense of gratitude to Islam, which has protected the Jews for fifty generations, while the Christian world persecuted the Jews and tried many times "by the sword" to get them to abandon their faith.”]
http://zope.gush-shalom.org/home/en/channels/avnery/1159094813

The above is a quotation from an article entitled “Mohammad’s Sword” by Uri Avnery, a Jewish peacenik writing in Gush Shalom, the largest most influential Peace Lobbyists in the Israel.

Westralis, an interesting analysis. I can but talk on what I experienced - and those I met did not differentiate where a Jew was from; their intention was to wipe out all Jews.

At the same time they wished to kill all those who they saw as apostate, and that included those who did not practice Islam in the manner they approved. Is it possible to belong to something that one can not leave? How strong is faith if it is never tested?

Historically Islam protecting Jews? It was Sulamein the magnificent who sealed the Golden Gate and established a graveyard below it to prevent the Jew's Messiah from entering.

Mind you, what we see today of Islam and Judaism seem very different creatures to what was practiced 100+ years ago. Things seem to be building to a crescendo.