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Why gay marriage is good for straight women : Comments
By Samantha Stevenson, published 19/7/2010Marriage has long been enshrined in patriarchal and religious values that have done nothing to improve the lot of women.
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Posted by vanna, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 11:36:38 AM
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Thanks for your welcoming hugs, sinners :+)
Yeah, no wonder that Jesus, being wise and all, never came back as he promised. Fundamentalist males, who love him just a little too much, would be a good repellent. You have worked out a great way to have fun, Suze! I too ROFL when I read Woulfe’s comment about Leigh and his wife. But HELP!...now I will have this image in my head everytime I read a typical “Leigh” post. Foxy you always manage to find the most appropriate quotes. I seem to have too little time to post, but will whenever I can. Richie10, “The good book says that we must take the whole book not just the pieces we agree with…” I don’t disagree that it is better to take 'any' whole book into consideration rather than just the parts one likes, but I wonder how it is possible applying that to the Bible, as there are so many contradictions. Pynchme, I found it very interesting what you wrote about cavemen etc. I once read an article that there indeed is an evolutionary advantage of having a presence of some homosexual people in the family and community especially because in those rough times, a proportion of parents died at a young age- at an age when their children were still too young to be able to care for themselves. Then, it was of much advantage of the group’s survival that there were some childless family members who could take over the care of the kids. You might have already come across this article but it’s an interesting read, too: “Having Older Brothers Increases a Man's Odds of Being Gay” http://tinyurl.com/2vggfyy Vanna, You can always “hire a crowd” to applaud heterosexual males at a uni’s entrance. I’m sure they’ll understand your pain, too. I think that Samantha Stevenson makes a mistake by singling out straight women in her title. Including same-sex marriage is good for everyone (not just straight women); it means that a society is civil and does not discriminate against people because of their different sexual orientation. Posted by Celivia, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 3:23:18 PM
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Dear Vanna,
I wasn't able to respond to you earlier because I'd used up all of my posts. Finally, here I am. You stated to me that it, "sounds like a university feminist going on and on about patriarchy..." Waleed Aly, the author that I cited happens to be a married male. I happened to cite from his book, "People like Us," because he was speaking about the deep inability of each of us to comprehend the other; which resulted in a world of much mutual stereotyping and consequent ignorance. As for myself, I'm a happily married young working mother, with a husband and family. My husband and I work together side by side. I'm not an academic, although I do have several university degrees, however, I don't see the world in terms of gender, or labels. I believe that a person's individual human qualities, rather than his or her biological sex, is the primary measure of a person's worth and achievement. As for homosexuality, My attitude is, enjoy your own sex life (so long as it damages nobody else) and leave others to enjoy theirs, in private, whatever their inclinations, which are none of your business. I trust that clarifies things for you. Dear Suze, I'm glad that you liked the Jesus joke, and you're most welcome to a group hug. In fact, several group hugs! Dear Severin, Keep on posting. Please! Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 4:25:42 PM
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Hey you lot, we'll have no more of those sinful single-gender group hugs please, you will have the neighbours talking. :P
It is infinitely more harmful to perpetuate this sort of intolerance than it is to accept people for their differences. The test should be - First Do No Harm. There is greater harm from intolerance. Why should people of the same sex be pilloried just because they love each other? Love is perfectly 'natural'. Homosexuals have been around for centuries which suggests it is nothing new nor anything to be feared. Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 5:08:10 PM
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>> But HELP!...now I will have this image in my head everytime I read a typical “Leigh” post.
Sorry, but it gets worse: on the days he doesn’t post you now have to imagine him vigorously but quietly gnawing on an old slipper. Posted by woulfe, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 5:56:30 PM
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Foxy,
I really don’t want to know your history. The author does a critique of our current Prime Minister and mentions their gender, marriage status and sexual preferences. This breaks the rules of the anti-discrimination policy of the Curtin University (her employer) which states:- "Harassment is any behaviour that is unreasonable and inappropriate and which is unwanted by the victim. The behaviour may be deliberate (for example verbal abuse or threat of physical violence) or covert (for example criticism, exclusion or unrealistic/degrading demands). It is usually based on some real or perceived difference such as sex, race or disability." The author should best concentrate on the policies of the Prime Minister, which no one seems to know about as yet. I have never heard of anyone from an Australian university who has ever made a single positive statement about married, heterosexual males, with ever statement made by academics being negative of married, heterosexual males. This does clearly appear to be continuous discrimination by university academics, and it does appear to be completely accepted by university admissistration. I would think start shutting universities down, and divert the money elsewhere in education. Posted by vanna, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 6:26:50 PM
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So if academics in universities cannot write anything positive about heterosexual married men, then are they welcommed into universities or not?