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Why gay marriage is good for straight women : Comments

By Samantha Stevenson, published 19/7/2010

Marriage has long been enshrined in patriarchal and religious values that have done nothing to improve the lot of women.

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Agreed, Country Chris.

Runner,
"I take it you have no problem with a man having 5 wives so as to encompass ALL."

I will tell you something else to ignore. Your God is the one who allowed polygamy, NOT the 10 or so countries that have legalised same-sex marriage so far, between 1991 and 2010.

Polygamy never 'caused' homosexual marriage, or vice versa.
That is because same-sex marriage remains to be defined as marriage between two people- not ALL.

Jason, great posts, but as severin said, don't expect the OLO fundies to pay attention to reason.

Richie, I feel for your son that he was the victim of a paedophile. I don't know how I would cope if one of my children was raped.
I hope that this child molester was locked behind bars to keep him from repeating the crime.
Posted by Celivia, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 9:28:33 PM
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Celivia

'Your God is the one who allowed polygamy, NOT the 10 or so countries that have legalised same-sex marriage so far, between 1991 and 2010.'

Well isn't it amazing that you have suddenly become a believer in my God. Keep reading past the old testament and see what Jesus says about marriage and you might be able to accurately portrays your Creators position.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 27 July 2010 11:40:29 PM
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Dear Celivia,
Your lack o knowledge is showing. God created man with freedom of choice with this warning "Do it my way and you live the good life, do it your way and you pay the price and it may not be as good as it looks for it may be a pig in a poke" paraphrases mine. If you read Mat 19-6 you will have the mind of God on marriage, not mans choices.
Posted by Richie 10, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 4:13:41 AM
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Runner,
"Well isn't it amazing that you have suddenly become a believer in my God."
It would be amazing if that were true. You would have earned a cosy place in heaven for converting me, lol.
But I need to disappoint you. In Da beginning of this discussion I said that I am trying hard to look at this issue from a Christian's POV and that is a hard thing to do because Christians like Pynchme and Foxy interpret the Bible differently than you do, as a fundy.

"Keep reading past the old testament and see what Jesus says about marriage and you might be able to accurately portrays your Creators position."
Actually, I don't believe that some magical being created us. There is overwhelming evidence that we evolved. If you don't accept that, then your attic needs a major dusting-off and cleaning-out of centuries old cobwebs.

I merely point out that the God YOU believe in, according to YOU, changed his mind about polygamy because Jesus thought it was a bad idea.
You, yourself, admitted that your god's idea was crap, about polygamy. And if you, unlike Pynchme and Foxy, believe that your god is against same-sex marriage, then that's another crap idea of your god as well.

Richie,
Thanks, I read Mat 19-6,
but, IMHO, I completely disagree with Jesus because this quote is so anti-divorce.
"What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

Ok divorce is not a great thing to happen, but needs to be an option.
Why did Jesus think it is a great idea for people to stay in a bad, loveless marriage?
I'd suggest to him to try it some day, if he (still) existed.

You are right that divorce effects children, and I agree that it is sad for them. But there are screaming mad couples and families out there. Sometimes children are much better off when the parents divorce. Divorce is not great, but needs to be an option.

Anyway, divorce is a side issue. Let's give same-sex couples the right to get married first :)
Posted by Celivia, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:06:34 AM
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And that is your God given right and I respect that but Please do not say God condones polygamy for that is not right. Maybe you need to read who asked the question about divorce, then you would have seen it was the same self righteous, who called for him to be crucified. The only question to enter heaven is what did you with my son Jesus. Your answer appears to be I reject him which is your God given right. We can't blame God for our choices. As the old saying goes you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink. It is a little like the debate on birth control. God is Love and he makes a way where there is no way.
(grace) again I repeat if you chose to live under the law you are subject to the whole law. I chose to live under grace trusting Jesus atonement of the cross. While we live on planet earth we are subject to Gods Law.
Posted by Richie 10, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 10:42:04 AM
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In an ideal world....

Runner would not resort to insults to people who do not share his world view.

Richie 10 would accept that just maybe his religion is not the single truth as in:

>> While we live on planet earth we are subject to Gods Law. <<

No we are not subject to any god's law. Your dogma is your choice. You have no right to inflict your dogma on others - as in same sex marriage - two people who love each other and wish to formalise their commitment - that's all. And it is none of your business.

Celivia

10 out 10 for actually reading one of Richie's bible references. He should take note that atheists don't demand reading of Hitchens or Dawkins, we'd like it if they did so of their own free will, but we don't expect others to become atheists; just to live and let live.

Poirot

Thank you.
Posted by Severin, Wednesday, 28 July 2010 11:10:21 AM
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