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Public schools need ethics, not religious education : Comments

By Glen Coulton, published 2/7/2010

Religion, especially Christianity, is not essential to the teaching and development of a sound ethical sense.

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Proxy
Sorry; have to dash off on grandfather duty. But quickly, as I said, if there is good evidence that homosexual activity poses a net threat threat to the world at large, then I would have to rethink my tolerance of it. I'm not sure you have demonstrated that it harms people who do not engage in it. Even so, don't forget that homosexuality is but a side issue to what prompted my article, which was about concern that religions were trying to claim ownership of all ethical judgments and therefore sole authority to make them. I could live to regret responding quickly!
Posted by GlenC, Sunday, 4 July 2010 5:08:26 PM
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Proxy, you just won't let this go will you?
Homosexuality is NOT LEARNED.
It can't be encouraged by teachers or other gay people.
If you are born straight, you are straight.
If you are born homosexual, you are homosexual, even if you choose not to have sex with people of your own gender.

Check out this website Proxy:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/dec/01/homosexuality-genetics-usa

"While sexual behaviour may be chosen, the preponderance of researchers say attraction is dictated by biology, with no demonstrated contribution from social factors such as parenting or other factors after birth.'

"...virtually every animal species that has been studied - from sheep to fruit flies - has a small minority of individuals who demonstrate homosexual activity."

Were the homosexual animals or insects taught about how to be homosexual, or that it was not 'natural' Proxy?
No of course they weren't, and yet there they are, just like gay humans. They are born that way.

Most religious classes would not agree with the science about this fact, so they would be telling any gay students in their classes that it is a sin, an abomination, and a terribly unnatural way to be.

That would be soul-destroying and awfully upsetting to these students who were born as homosexuals. Many commit suicide because of the stigma and the way many people do not accept them.
Posted by suzeonline, Sunday, 4 July 2010 5:28:52 PM
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Dear McReal,
I would love to know what picture you see on freewill. I happen to believe that everybody, Christians included have the right to choose whose ideas they believe. I know, not all ideas are good. But I support your God given right of freewill to chose but I resent you trying to take my God given right of choice away and imposing your choice or will on my children.God is not the problem, man is. Lord your will be done in my life as it is in heaven.
Posted by Richie 10, Sunday, 4 July 2010 7:46:35 PM
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Boaz: << CJ.. I see it in you every day..and am also guilty of it. I speak for you and I and all >>

You don't speak for me, old chap. I find your assertion that you do offensive in the extreme.

Don't presume to do it again. If you did so to my face I'd probably drop you.

You may well be "evil, fallen, selfish and greedy", but that doesn't give you the right to project your personal flaws on to others. And any RE teacher who does so to innocent kids is guilty of child abuse, as far as I'm concerned.

mikk: << Am I the only one getting a bit disturbed by runner's ongoing obsession with animal sex? >>

It's more than a bit like Proxy's obsession with anal sex. A bit too much protestation, perhaps?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 4 July 2010 8:17:45 PM
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<<Given that Proxy claims not be religious, I wonder what is the basis...
for his extreme antipathy to Islam but not to Christianity?>>
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 4 July 2010 11:26:52 AM

CJ Morgan,
My "antipathy to Islam but not to Christianity" is based on logic, not bigotry.
Please note that I also have no antipathy toward Scientology, Taoism,
Shintoism, Buddhism, Wicca, Seventh Day Adventism, Mormonism, etc

Allow me to introduce you to Wafa Sultan.
Like myself, Wafa Sultan is neither a Christian nor a Muslim, yet,
unlike yourself, she has "extreme antipathy to Islam but not to Christianity"
Unlike her, my mother is not a Muslim and I'm not a practising
psychiatrist or a Syrian Muslim by birth.
This last week, she appeared as an expert witness in the secret
(closed to the public) hate crimes trial of Geert Wilders in the Netherlands.
She fully endorses his stand on Islam and so do I and so do the
citizens of the Netherlands who voted to increase his party's
parliamentary representation from 9 to 22 seats in the June elections.
She has experienced Islam first hand as a woman living under Islam
for the first 30 years of her life.
Her experiences gels with my understanding of Islam, based on my readings.
She sums up the situation far better than I could.
So if you really want to know how someone can differentiate between
two religions you can listen to what she has to say about them.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/wafa-sultan-defends-geert-wilders.html
Posted by Proxy, Sunday, 4 July 2010 8:33:09 PM
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Now, now Proxy. Just because you want to avoid discussing your rather obvious obsession with homosexuality and anal sex is no excuse for a shameless diversion into your other trolling obsession.

Stick your Islamophobia under your rock for now - let's explore this extreme homophobia of yours. If it's not based on religious bigotry, why are you so obsessed with it?
Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 4 July 2010 9:29:23 PM
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