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Obama - dancing with the devil in the West Bank : Comments

By David Singer, published 8/6/2010

Palestinian journalist, Khaled Amayreh, has indicated the direction America and Israel need to go to see a possible end to the conflict.

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Davidf, I almost couldn't believe your last comment. You seem to agree with many of the things that I believe. You can see the idiocy of the direction Israel is going in. Congratulations.

Why can't there be more Jews like you and less Singers?
Posted by David G, Monday, 14 June 2010 5:38:57 PM
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#davidf and David G

If my article did nothing else it has apparently brought you two together in an embrace of mutual admiration and common purpose - the destruction of the Jewish National home.

Enjoy your new relationship. You deserve each other.
Posted by david singer, Monday, 14 June 2010 9:58:30 PM
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Dear David Sionger,

That was a mean comment you made. I care very much about the Jewish people and our great traditions. The Jewish people is much more than the state of Israel. I am not going to sacrifice my Jewish ethic at the altar of a petty, jingoistic nationalism.
Posted by david f, Monday, 14 June 2010 10:52:28 PM
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#davidf

The truth obviously hurts.

Not wishing to sacrifice your Jewish ethic (whatever that means) will - if taken to its ultimate conclusion - result in 6.5 million Jews losing their national independence.

It will also result in future generations of Jews being deprived of the opportunity to join in the building of the Jewish National Home - to which the international community unanimously recognised they had a legal and historical entitlement ninety years ago.

You have to live with the consequences of your abandonment of Israel - and with people like David G who applaud you for adopting that view. Enjoy his embrace.
Posted by david singer, Monday, 14 June 2010 11:23:39 PM
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[Deleted for abuse].
Posted by David G, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 7:30:07 AM
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Dear David S,

It is important for Jews, like everyone else, to be a free people. Being a free people does not mean domination of other people. It means having equal rights and for others to have equal rights.

Whether or not there is a Jewish state Jews can be a free people. That is far more important than the state of Israel.

Freedom should be for everyone. Ethnic nationalism results in those who control the state controlling others.

Israel was declared the Jewish National Home by the Balfour Declaration. Lord Balfour was an antisemite who spoke against letting Jews into England when he supported the Alien Exclusion Act. Other people were living on the land that Balfour called the Jewish National Home, but Balfour didn't care about that. The Balfour Declaration was an imperialistic, anti-Semitic Act. Balfour cared neither for the people living between the Jordan and the Mediterranean nor for the Jews.

Balfour was an antisemite who did not want more Jews in England but was quite happy for them to be elsewhere. I want a world where Jews are free to live anywhere.

I did not abandon Israel. Israel was never mine to abandon. Israel did not exist when I was born and has never been my country. One cannot abandon a foreign country. I have not abandoned my own country.

I want all people to be free. I will support all countries which do not discriminate among their citizens as to ethnicity or religion. That seems far better than to support a country which does not support equal rights for all its citizens regardless of ethnicity or religion.

The Christian ethic declares that only through Jesus can one enter the Kingdom of heaven.

The Jewish ethic is different. We exalt all the righteous of the earth regardless of their religious belief or lack of it.

Whether or not you want it so, Jordan is not Palestine.

I wish you well and hope you can deal with reality.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:31:26 AM
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