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Little love for Abbott, but voters have stopped listening to Rudd : Comments

By Graham Young, published 17/5/2010

It’s a good thing for Labor that elections are rarely fought on budgets: our online polling says key voters have switched off Labor.

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In a representative democracy we don't vote for our local member per se - we vote for a Political Party.

Even then, we don't vote for a Party as much as we vote for a leader.

How then is a local member able to act in the interests of his/her electorate when they must first obey the rules of their Party?

Our system is simply one in which one of two groups of politicians, each acting in the interests of various lobby groups - take turns in running the country.

Every thousand days or so, we get a choice between two leaders - and that's all the democracy we have.
Posted by wobbles, Thursday, 20 May 2010 12:58:20 AM
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When the wishbone replaces the backbone, the country is in trouble. I was in country Victoria last weekend, in a little clone of Hillsong Church, with a dedicated female Pastor, sticking as Hillsong does, to the word of the Lord. I missed the program on Hillsong on TV, but one thing has emerged. The Anglican Church, Rudd’s Church, in the four million people environent in Melbourne, attracts 25,000 worshippers every weekend. It has many great leaders in it, but for really Passionate teaching and inspiring Pastors, the Hillsong brand has to be considered successful worldwide.

My work over the last six years has been to investigate the origins and roots of the Australian Constitution. In it the Queen or Her Majesty appears forty times, and because She is the head of the Church, Army, The legal system, and the Government Her Coronation Oath 1688 ( Imp) is an important part of the Australian Constitution, and makes us a Christian country. In 1901, when the Constitution became law, the Irish still did not have Home Rule, and the resentments against England carried through to Australia. When Major General Jim Molan, joined the Army as a teenager, about 1965 his father warned him that as a Roman Catholic, he would be discriminated against. Australia had, by then grown used to the Roman Catholics becoming Aussies, and he claims he never had a single problem with religious discrimination.

The confidence trick pulled upon the Australian people, by its government over 109 years, has been based on the atheist belief, that Almighty God does not matter, and the stacking of the Legal Profession, by atheists. S 126 of the Australian Constitution casts a duty on Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second to appoint deputies, in every community throughout Australia, not just in Canberra. It says: The Queen may authorize the Governor General, and the use of the word may, supposedly implies a discretion. However, may becomes must, when private rights are in issue, and the essential humanity, and guarantee of democracy, contained in the teachings of Jesus Christ, must have a local outlet. Continued
Posted by Peter the Believer, Friday, 21 May 2010 4:11:24 AM
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Pigeons have a habit of coming home to roost. Rudd came to power after making a full on pitch for the Christian vote. He has thirty lawyers in his team in the lower house, and Penny Wong is a lawyer. I do not know for sure but I think M/s Wong, is an atheist. A person who does not believe in God’s wisdom has had to adopt a substitute, and it is the Green Religion, that motivates her life.

The Christian roots of democracy, are so frightening to despots, that over sixty million Christians were murdered in seventy years, in Russia. That is three times the current population of Australia. They still could not make it die. The Christian roots of Australian democracy, are contained in S 126 Constitution, and the whole object of the Australian Constitution has been frustrated, because the Government has not advised the Queen, to appoint every local Magistrate as a local delegate of Her Majesty. Her Majesty comes not from her person, but from Her dedication, by Oath, to the service of Her people by the Coronation Oath 1688 ( Imp).

Nature abhors a vacuum. The vacuum left by the failure of government, to appoint local representatives of the Commonwealth, has been filled by the States. I mentioned Jim Molan earlier. He was and remains infantry. Infantry is the edge of the power sword. The edge of the power sword is blunted, by the failure of the federal government to appoint local Magistrates as delegates of Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, and pay them accordingly.

I am firmly of the belief that whoever promises to implement the Australian Constitution, and blunt the power of the Canberra bureaucrats, by appointing local representatives of the Commonwealth, in every community, to make the Constitution work as planned, will win.

Australia has over 60% of its population, nominally Christian. Almighty God is a patient and loving God, and He has been waiting, for all Christians to unite, and discover that we have more in common, than divisions among us. If Abbott can work to unite, he will succeed
Posted by Peter the Believer, Friday, 21 May 2010 4:36:52 AM
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That's a very good theory Peter minus the fact that Democracy was invented by the Greeks roughly half a millennium BEFORE Christianity even existed, and much of the inspiration for democratic systems actually came from both them and the Romans- BOTH non-Christian pagans.
Posted by King Hazza, Friday, 21 May 2010 9:37:23 PM
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REXW, putting unsure Rudd aside for the moment, your reference about Zionists influencing the Murdoch media is what has many middle road academics worried.

Certainly us older ones felt hatred for the way Nazi Germany treated the Jews, but it seems that once they get the chance they will still align with big Biz, as the early Jews sought help from the Romans to get rid of the young Jesus.

Returning to Rudd, it could be said that he too has become unsure of himself through right-wing propaganda, much helped by Rudd himself being too loose with Costello/Howard acquired capital.

Which again worries middle roaders as our public has been made to forget how John Howard so resolutely joined Tony Blair to back George W Bush in his attack on Iraq.

One wonders if all the above mess can be made secure just by letting little Israel begin its long awaited attack, setting the rest of the world on Iran?

Maybe it has reached the stage that Murdoch with his Zionist offsiders can easily push littlies like Rudd aside steering the world whichever way he wants.
Posted by bushbred, Saturday, 22 May 2010 1:28:16 PM
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When King Hazza has a go at me about democracy, I know at least one reader has read what I posted so we have a conversation going. Jesus Christ invented representative democracy. All others are simply poor copies, and he patented the idea, in the Holy Bible.

His promise to be with us always, in the Holy Spirit, and the machinery, he as a genuine social engineer put in place, by giving verbal instructions, later written down, examined by scholars, and adopted as the English Constitution by the English, and exported to the United States, which then became a Republic has been the basis of the enormous prosperity of the Anglo Celtic world, and the failure of so many to accept it, has led to enormous suffering and poverty.

It works like this. On top of the pile is a King. Jesus was called upon to use his supernatural powers, to make himself King, and to this day, the remaining Jews have not forgiven Him. Instead, he made the King bow to Almighty God, and so did the English. The Pope is NOT Almighty God. Protestants believe that every individual, has a personal relationship with Almighty God, and by prayer, can have a conversation with Him. No middlemen are required.

The representative democracy created by Jesus Christ was established after the Magna Carta became the cornerstone of the laws of England. No one except the Holy Spirit is infallible, and even Almighty God Himself, in John 5 Verses 22 and 23, deferred to the Authority of Jesus, but Jesus then deferred to the Holy Spirit, in Luke 12 Verses 10-12. These references are all to the Authorised King James Version.

If one word describes the advent of Christianity, it is the word arbitrary. Arbitrary judgments are the highest form of blasphemy: The only unforgivable sin in the New Testament. Even Parliament must refrain from arbitrary judgments, and in English law, submit its deliberations to the ultimate test. The test of whether Almighty God will allow a jury to enforce the law, is the ultimate in representative democracy, and our heritage.
Posted by Peter the Believer, Sunday, 23 May 2010 5:34:46 AM
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