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Seven key facts about the Vatican, the Pope and child sexual abuse by Catholic clergy : Comments

By Ben Mathews, published 22/4/2010

Recent comments from Vatican officials in the wake of child sexual abuse scandals in the Catholic Church, and the reporting of them, call for some clarification of key concepts to inform public debate and policy responses.

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if anything, it will create a schism in the Churches, alienate the flock, and loosen the rigidity it holds over the Diocese. Communicants have lost faith.

It behoves the Vatican to come clean, defrock the wayward priest, take full responsibility for the past, compensate the victims, socialise more with the opposite sex, and importantly NOT accept candidates for the seminary from men in their teens. Abolish the celibacy code. Allow more females into their ranks, and overhaul the curriculum on sexual aberrations.

It's not three strikes and you're out. It will be a new code of conduct, and instant dismissal. Better to save one child from depravity and mature age depression and possible suicide, then to maintain a theatrical facade of saintly hypocrisy and holy wisdom.

Wishful thinking, for sure. Things never change in this neck of the woods !
Posted by jacinta, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 5:31:26 PM
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Jacinta,
How could there be 10,000 victims daily in Boston alone when the John Jay report managed to identify only 10,667 in the USA over an extended time-frame?
Furthermore, your accusations of bestiality are the first I've heard.
Have you any information on the types of animals involved?
Your claim reminds me of Obama's statement that 10,000 people had been killed in a Kansas tornado, whereas the official toll was 12.
But what's a minor rhetorical flourish when you're trying to make a point?
Posted by Proxy, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 5:35:17 PM
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Jacinta, why single out the Pope for crimes against humanity? By your criteria, you should be summoning also the State Education ministers or Julia Gillard for sexual abuse of school children by teachers; the Australian Olympic delegate for sexual abuse of children by swimming coaches; the Northern Territory Chief Minister or Kevin Rudd for sexual abuse of aboriginal children by their seniors; and the United Nations Secretary-General (or should it be Geoffrey Robertson) for sexual abuse of children in UN refugee camps.
Posted by Raycom, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 10:59:10 PM
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Raycom.....because the Roman Catholic Church dares to take the high moral ground and lecture everybody else. Don't forget what Jesus said: Those to whom much is given of them much will be required. I'm a RC, and practising, but I fully believe that our Church needs a severe pruning (Jesus's words).
Posted by Francis, Tuesday, 27 April 2010 11:04:39 PM
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Runner, like yourself i am a committed christian & deeply concerned about the loony, left, alleged academics, Marxist (pro child abuse) dogma as well. Your also correct about the church NGOs doing social work more efficiently, or cheaper, but they still have to "report" to state DOCS, dept of families/community services.

If the news is unpalatable, (or not the kind of thing the minister wants to hear) renewal of next year's contract can be held over them. Its also about "plausible deniability", the minister was unaware, the subcontractor "stuffed up" (we'll just sack them, sacrifice a few scapegoats, etc), see how its all, at arms length now.

There is an evil agenda behind everything the red/green/getup/labour coalition does.

Francis, of course loony, left politicians & bureaucrats never take the high moral ground do they Francis?
Posted by Formersnag, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 5:51:43 PM
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Formation and screening are important along with new accountabilities.
The use of the term 'pedophile priests' is totally wrong of the media who have an agenda to cover up their approval of homosexual lifestyles and sexual acts.
The 4% of priests who have engaged in sexual/abue behaviours is weighted towards boys in their tenns or in their 20s. This is homosexual behaviour and the media does not wish to mention it. They use the pedophile tag as the media are frightened on reporting the truth, not just on this issue but on almost anything social, cultural or economic- against working people and in favour of either left/liberal ideologues or the corporations on the 'right' of politics.
Much higher proportins of 4% in the general male population engage in adultery, overseas sex tours in south-east Asia to sexualy use and abuse males and females of widely differing ages. Where is the indignation from the media or perhaps from YOU dear reader? Where is the outrage about the higher rates of sexual abuse form the denominations and from the other religions? their incident rates are far higher. The media also advertise for phone sex and for brothels and curious forms of sex and collect millions for advertising. Yet to the front of their newsprint they carry on with feigned outrage. Who is being hypocritical and insincere?
Posted by Webby, Wednesday, 28 April 2010 10:38:25 PM
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